HDTV?

youdsy · 2 Nov 2012 at 02:04

Phatjayunoi said:
Sounds like someone is stuck in small room and forced to have a small monitor?

i have a 23" monitor yes. but its hooked up to a 3gb 580 lightning extreme so its not all that bad . lol

Phatjayunoi · 2 Nov 2012 at 02:36

youdsy said:
i have a 23" monitor yes. but its hooked up to a 3gb 580 lightning extreme so its not all that bad . lol

And that has exactly what to do with console gaming?

You really do seem to be missing the point.

youdsy · 2 Nov 2012 at 02:42

Phatjayunoi said:
And that has exactly what to do with console gaming?

You really do seem to be missing the point.

what is the point then?

im saying if you want the best image quality for games on 9 year old mid range technology running at 900x600 get a small monitor. a monitor a pc back then would be running on. (i played games back in 2004 at 1280x1024.)

if a small monitor is too small find a happy medium.

if you want a 50 inch tv go ahead, but the bigger the tv the more stretched the upscale will be.

youdsy · 2 Nov 2012 at 02:43

Phatjayunoi said:
Sounds like someone is stuck in small room and forced to have a small monitor?

whats that got to do with console gaming????

smit101 · 2 Nov 2012 at 05:31

youdsy said:
what is the point then?

im saying if you want the best image quality for games on 9 year old mid range technology running at 900x600 get a small monitor. a monitor a pc back then would be running on. (i played games back in 2004 at 1280x1024.)

if a small monitor is too small find a happy medium.

if you want a 50 inch tv go ahead, but the bigger the tv the more stretched the upscale will be.

Most modern TVs have decent scalers which will scale lower resolutions nicely and so will largely eliminate the potential problems you describe, also the bigger the screen the more detail you'll see.

I have my gaming PC hooked up to a 24inch Dell (2407) and PS3 connected to a 70 inch Sony SXRD TV (1080p) and I can assure you that the PS3 looks stunning on the large screen, I'm not a heavy console gamer (pc mainly) but of the few games I've played such as Uncharted series/Red Dead/Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain etc I've been very impressed with the visuals.

snarloas1982 · 2 Nov 2012 at 07:43

Panny 50vt20 here from its been released best tv I've gamed on to date, mops the floor with the LCD/LEDs I have around the house

wannabedamned · 2 Nov 2012 at 12:00

What is it with all the weird advice in this thread o.O

BigDannyO · 2 Nov 2012 at 12:42

My xbox is normally hooked up over vga to a 1920x1080 22" LCD monitor in the Man Cave, but is far FAR nicer over HDMI on my 42" Panasonic S20 in the living room. Never had any problem with IR on the plasma.

Frxn · 2 Nov 2012 at 13:22

I'd say 42"+ HDTV, obviously a 23" or so monitor would give better picture quality, but you'd have to sit a lot closer to the screen.

Bossk128 · 2 Nov 2012 at 13:35

I use a Pioneer 5090 plasma and it's been great for 4 years, awesome picture quality and no sign of image burn or retention.

No desire to upgrade until I can afford OLED.

kdd · 2 Nov 2012 at 16:09

Streeteh said:
Essentially the opposite of what advice should be given.

Image retention and screen burn, a lot of people get screen burn from video games which is impossible to remove and can ruin a plasma screen. I wouldn't say a plasma screen would look noticeably better than a decent LCD/LED screen.

Plainsong · 2 Nov 2012 at 17:21

I would.

kdd · 2 Nov 2012 at 18:14

Plainsong said:
I would.

I own a Panasonic plasma and a sony led of similar price and spec and can't see any real advantage for either regarding gaming, I would say there could be said to be a tiny plus margin for the plasma for video but it would be opinion/preference, LCD's/LED's are very good now, you can expect plasma to be largely phased out in the coming years.

Begbie · 2 Nov 2012 at 18:52

Without a doubt Panasonic Plasmas are IMO the best TVs on the market.

Xbox looks fantastic on it.

james.miller · 2 Nov 2012 at 18:58

youdsy said:
i am serious.

the smaller the better in terms of image quality.

find a happy medium.

or go for 50" of complete blur and mess up your eyes from squinting.

take two 1080p screens. one 22", one 50". assume person X is sitting the optimum distance from both. Please tell us firstly; what's the perceptible size of the pixels on each screen and by that i mean how big do they appear to person X and secondly; explain how this produces a noticeably poorer picture on the bigger screen.

Thanks

Begbie · 2 Nov 2012 at 19:37

james.miller said:
take two 1080p screens. one 22", one 50". assume person X is sitting the optimum distance from both. Please tell us firstly; what's the perceptible size of the pixels on each screen and by that i mean how big do they appear to person X and secondly; explain how this produces a noticeably poorer picture on the bigger screen.

Thanks

This man is correct, yes a 50" screen may not be as good as a 22" but then you don't have 50" of plasma to enjoy.

The bigger the better for a TV, PC gaming is a different ball game.

kdd · 2 Nov 2012 at 19:48

wannabedamned said:
What is it with all the weird advice in this thread o.O

You're opinionated to extremes, there's a lot of evidence to suggest plasmas are far from ideal for gaming, have a look on youtube for videos of people complaining about burn in on plasma's, panasonics are particularly bad for burn in. Incidentally, a £250 plasma will be inferior in terms of picture quality to a £500 LCD, plasmas are far from across the board great.

BigDannyO · 2 Nov 2012 at 19:56

kdd said:
You're opinionated to extremes, there's a lot of evidence to suggest plasmas are far from ideal for gaming, have a look on youtube for videos of people complaining about burn in on plasma's, panasonics are particularly bad for burn in. Incidentally, a £250 plasma will be inferior in terms of picture quality to a £500 LCD, plasmas are far from across the board great.

I think you're being a little over dramatic on the burn in issue. There are people in this thread,myself included, who have not experienced any problems.

What about the disadvantages of LCD ie backlight bleed, poor viewing angles, low contrast ratio, motion blurring, pixelation. How would a £500 plasma compare with a £500 LCD?

Horses for courses and all that.

kdd · 2 Nov 2012 at 19:58

BigDannyO said:
I think you're being a little over dramatic on the burn in issue. There are people in this thread,myself included, who have not experienced any problems.

What about the disadvantages of LCD ie backlight bleed, poor viewing angles, low contrast ratio, motion blurring, pixelation. How would a £500 plasma compare with a £500 LCD?

Horses for courses and all that.

Hmm you overstate 'problems' with lcd's and understate problems with plasma's. I own both, and would recommend a decent LED over a plasma for gaming. Do some research on modern screens...

james.miller · 2 Nov 2012 at 20:06

kdd said:
Hmm you overstate 'problems' with lcd's and understate problems with plasma's.

Agree with that.

bad displays have problems, regardless of what they are.

Fun fact for the day - my 18 month (ish) old galaxy s2 (oled screen) has screen burn appearing now. But, my 4 year old panasonic 50pz80b plasma has nothing. zero. it barely event suffers from short term image retention.

It is true that certain flaws can be attributed to certain types of screen, however this is always more the case with the cheap end of the market, not anything really half decent.