Are we losing this country?

In the last 12 years we produce 16 out of those a few were in the US, in the last 12 years the US produce 60.
Most of ours were produced during the empire I think something like 75 percent maybe more.

the instrument of government look that up.

I like to ask you is this not a racist statement?

They had a population large than ours during the End of the Empire but we had more winners.

Is English your first language? For someone who is so proud and protective of being English and its history you're language skills do let you down...
 
I like to ask you is this not a racist statement?

It's not racist and I suggest you go educate yourself on the term!
I agree with a lot of what was said however I wouldn't have used the term chav as that is indeed bigoted towards people who live in social housing and pretty offensive.
The dribble you've been spouting though is indeed racist ;)
 
Keyboard is messed up, so need to copy and past letters, untill I get a new one.

Ah right. OK. I got the cheapo OcUK one a few months ago. It does the job for me. If you just need a super cheap one as a stop gap then it'll do fine!

Now, can you address my other questions please.
 
What is your argument, exactly?

And can you please explain why Scotland, Wales & NI are "constitutional countries". You're making your case here, present your argument with facts (or at least explanation). Don't make us do your leg work, that isn't how discussion/debate works.

Purely out of interest, what's your background?


My argument is England or Britain is no longer a super power. We are just an average nation now, our economy is screwed, we are living on borrowed time and the reason for that is how people in this country still think we are great nation like we once were.

We can no longer afford to keep or borders open, we can no longer afford to give aid, we are the laughing stock of the world, we obey all the rules of Euro, while others countries don't.
We allow corporations to take over the politics of this nation, we prefer to help foreign people that help our own.

The Laws need to change in this country we can no longer be the red cross of the world, its time to step back and let other nations do it.

I took major offence with the word white chav when no one else did, and thats another problem this country has.
 
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It's not racist and I suggest you go educate yourself on the term!
I agree with a lot of what was said however I wouldn't have used the term chav as that is indeed bigoted towards people who live in social housing and pretty offensive.
The dribble you've been spouting though is indeed racist ;)

So white chav is not racist ok then, so if I identify someone by their color its not racist ok then.
 
My argument is England or Britain is no longer a super power. We are just an average nation now, our economy is screwed, we are living on borrowed time and the reason for that is how people in this country still think we are great nation like we once were.

We can no longer afford to keep or borders open, we can no longer afford to give aid, we are the laughing stock of the world, we obey all the rules of Euro, while others countries don't.
We allow corporations to take over the politics of this nation, we prefer to help foreign people that help our own.

The Laws need to change in this country we can no longer be the red cross of the world, its time to step back and let other nations do it.

I took major offence with the word white chav when no one else did, and thats another problem this country has.

I actually agree that we are an average country (in terms of other 'rich', Western democracies) and I think that many people understand that.
Our economy, alongside many others is a problem but it's a problem that is being fixed and the latest figures show that we're going in the correct direction.

I'm not sure how you can say that we can't afford to keep our borders open. :confused:. We give plenty of aid (a contentious issue), so your point on that is wrong. We are not the laughing stock of the World, far from it. And we're currently disagreeing with various aspects of the European Union. Most topically prisoner votes as well as the raising of their budget but we're yet to see what DC does about that.

There is NOTHING racist about saying that someone is white. You don't understand what racism is if you believe that. He's not stating that Black chavs, Indian chavs or Chinese chavs are better than white ones. He's just making an observation. I'm a white British man with a job. OMG I'M RACIST. No.
So white chav is not racist ok then, so if I identify someone by their color its not racist ok then.

It's not, no. Identifying someone by their colour is perfectly acceptable. If you treated someone differently because of their colour, then there would likely be a problem. There is quite an obvious difference.

Again, may I ask your background? I'm a nosey bugger. ;) And, you're a new poster - we'll get there in the end but it's good to know now!
 
I actually agree that we are an average country (in terms of other 'rich', Western democracies) and I think that many people understand that.
Our economy, alongside many others is a problem but it's a problem that is being fixed and the latest figures show that we're going in the correct direction.

I'm not sure how you can say that we can't afford to keep our borders open. :confused:. We give plenty of aid (a contentious issue), so your point on that is wrong. We are not the laughing stock of the World, far from it. And we're currently disagreeing with various aspects of the European Union. Most topically prisoner votes as well as the raising of their budget but we're yet to see what DC does about that.

There is NOTHING racist about saying that someone is white. You don't understand what racism is if you believe that. He's not stating that Black chavs, Indian chavs or Chinese chavs are better than white ones. He's just making an observation. I'm a white British man with a job. OMG I'M RACIST. No.


It's not, no. Identifying someone by their colour is perfectly acceptable. If you treated someone differently because of their colour, then there would likely be a problem. There is quite an obvious difference.

Again, may I ask your background? I'm a nosey bugger. ;) And, you're a new poster - we'll get there in the end but it's good to know now!

We are not going in the correct way we'll have another recession again next year and again etc...
The country is in a mess and its getting deeper, a country that depends on housing prices is a country that will fail.

BTW I just asked a muslim shop keeper if i called him a muslim/ brown chav would that be racist, he just told me yes, so calling someone a white chav is racist.I'm going by what a non white person would see it as. It's an insult and refering to color thus it is racist.

It's not, no. Identifying someone by their colour is perfectly acceptable
So what terry said was not racist then.
 
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We are not going in the correct way we'll have another recession again next year and again etc...
The country is in a mess and its getting deeper, a country that depends on housing prices is a country that will fail.

BTW I just asked a muslim shop keeper if i called him a muslim/ brown chav would that be racist, he just told me yes, so calling someone a white chav is racist.

Facts to back this up please?

I just asked a white teacher if it would be racist if I called him a white teacher. he said no. So calling someone a white teaching isn't racist. I was prepared to discuss this stuff with you, but you're really not helping yourself.
 
Facts to back this up please?

I just asked a white teacher if it would be racist if I called him a white teacher. he said no. So calling someone a white teaching isn't racist. I was prepared to discuss this stuff with you, but you're really not helping yourself.

add an insult, see what he says like one born to a woman and a man who are not legally married.
 
the instrument of government look that up.

I think you need to look up the word "Repealed" and see what that means......

Also you might want to explain how interegnum politics is directly applicable to the modern Constituional Monarchy and why it supersedes that authority, particularly given its historical and legal position?
 
I think you need to look up the word "Repealed" and see what that means......

Also you might want to explain how interegnum politics is directly applicable to the modern Constituional Monarchy and why it supersedes that authority, particularly given its historical and legal position?

Does not matter because from that it derived England as one Constitutional country and the UK as a Sovereign State. Hence why we have 4 Constitutional countries in the UK.
 
And back to the topic, Are we losing this country? yes we are losing it, economically, culturally and morally. its becoming a capital corporate fascist state were life has no value.
And your local high street is doomed along with the decline in disposable income.
 
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Does not matter because from that it derived England as one Constitutional country and the UK as a Sovereign State. Hence why we have 4 Constitutional countries in the UK.

No it doesn't..you don't have a clue what you are talking about I'm afraid...not one. And why can't you explain why you think differently? Is it because you don't actually understand why, or the terms you are bandying about in the first place?


And back to the topic, Are we losing this country? yes we are losing it, economically, culturally and morally. its becoming a capital corporate fascist state were life has no value.
And your local high street is doomed along with the decline in disposable income.

If we are becoming a fascist corporate state then why is their a decline in the high street and our disposable income, surely a corporatocracy requires both a buoyant high street and a rise in disposable incomes to service it's own growth and influence?

Against this kind of rhetoric only serves to illustrate how detached from reality you appear to be.
 
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No it doesn't..you don't have a clue what you are talking about I'm afraid...not one. And why can't you explain why you think differently? Is it because you don't actually understand why, or the terms you are bandying about in the first place?




If we are becoming a fascist corporate state then why is their a decline in the high street and our disposable income, surely a corporatocracy requires both a buoyant high street and a rise in disposable incomes to service it's own growth and influence?

Against this kind of rhetoric only serves to illustrate how detached from reality you appear to be.

You have just said it and your asking me why... you have no understanding of what it means because you have just answered it with out knowing it which is truely funny.
 
You have just said it and your asking me why... you have no understanding of what it means because you have just answered it with out knowing it which is truely funny.

Ok, time for direct questions because I've had a few beers and some great BBQ food.

1. Are you a returnee? (I think you are)
2. No further questions.
 
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Ok, time for direct questions because I've had a few beers and some great BBQ food.

1. Are you a returnee? (I think you are)
2. No further questions.

Keep attacking, you really have no idea about what happening and what’s going on in the world. When you ask what is the major external force its corporate power.

Typical to start to insult a person, because you have no idea what is going on.
The corporate power that leads to reducing the workers wealth, when you hear about welfare you don't hear the corporate welfare your tax money is going to corporate welfare, values of profiteering, power taken away from the people. When you listen about privatisation it really means corporate fascism.

Money paid to hospital's to put people on the Liverpool pathway, the families that find out and take them off normally recover, there is profit in killing someone. You don’t have a right to kill yourself like some of the cases we seen, but corporations have the power to kill you and they get paid for it, The NHS has become an indirect controlled corporation.

We have been working harder and more efficient yet the distribution of capital has been less and less compared too return on capital regarding the return on labour.

The tax rate is double for the worker, corporations paying not tax to half the rate of a worker.
Go back too your beers and some great BBQ food, unil the day you start to moan but then thats too late.

This country used to have free university education now its not free, loans were very cheap now they are adding a risk rate to it which is just a profit rate and who owns the debt, corporations.
Corporations should work for the people not the people work for them, look at the Olyimpics the private security company failed but they are still given govenment contracts after.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/10/30/uk-horizon-hitachi-idUKBRE89T0B420121030
Who is paying for that oh thats right the tax payer, thought the idea of privatisation was that it would not need government money, you were sold a lie and its not only happening in ths country but every western country on planet.
 
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Keep attacking, you really have no idea about what happening and what’s going on in the world. When you ask what is the major external force its corporate power.

Typical to start to insult a person, because you have no idea what is going on.
The corporate power that leads to reducing the workers wealth, when you hear about welfare you don't hear the corporate welfare your tax money is going to corporate welfare, values of profiteering, power taken away from the people. When you listen about privatisation it really means corporate fascism.

Money paid to hospital's to put people on the Liverpool pathway, the families that find out and take them off normally recover, there is profit in killing someone. You don’t have a right to kill yourself like some of the cases we seen, but corporations have the power to kill you and they paid for it, The NHS has become an indirect controlled corporation.

We have been working harder and more efficient yet the distribution of capital has been less and less compared return on capital regarding the return on labour.

Erm, where did he insult you? :confused: Maybe you should look up the term insult.

He asked if you were a returnee?

Which we all know the answer to.
 
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Nothing new, King Richard had famously said that he would sell off London to anyone who was prepared to buy it.
Apart from strategic industries it makes no difference who owns it. For the employees foreign are usually better managed.
 
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