Voting Police commissioner on 15th

Most of mine haven't provided any information, and the ones who have seem more obsessed with North Wales fictional speeding/dangerous driving problems than with real crime :(
 
Out of the 7 candidates in my area, only 2 have bothered to actually create a profile.

Out of those 2, one has 4 years experience as a councillor and no other information, the other has 30 years experience in the police force, including working on the street.

Can't say I'm struggling that much to decide who to vote for (not that I have much confidence in it making much difference!!)
 
FYI, if you live in Hampshire, who you vote for will have a direct impact on policing as the Chief Alex Marshall has a new job and so whoever you vote in will get to decide on a new Chief Constable - and they do hold all the power.
 
May just go to the event and write my own name down for ***** and giggles.

Of all the candidates for Devon and Cornwall though only one stands out for me. The only one to really push prevention for crime rather than punishment.
 
In my area the Tory candidate has told everyone to vote for one of the indies, after being told that he had to be a Party Member to be the Tory candidate. All six candidates look like typical local politicians (still sleazy, but not competent enough to be sleazy in parliament) so I'm struggling with whether to bother.
 
Actually, not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. But my fave candidate is UKIP...

I will probably vote for them.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
FYI, if you live in Hampshire, who you vote for will have a direct impact on policing as the Chief Alex Marshall has a new job and so whoever you vote in will get to decide on a new Chief Constable - and they do hold all the power.
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It's an even bigger shame none of the people have put anything of any value in the profiles then.

Do they expect people to make an informed decision with nothing on substance on the site?.

None of them are worthy of the CO2 emissions generated form travelling to the voting booth from what I can tell.
 
Is this to encourage the illusion that we don't have a police state because we can now vote for the dictator?

Maybe its about liability, next time the police mess up they can just say, HEY you voted for him.
 
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Out of the four candidates in my area, only one has been bothered to complete their section on the PoliceElections site.

There is one independent, who's opinions I was interested in, but sadly it is the Labour candidate that has given her info.

Still no idea who to vote for.
 
Tombstone said:
Simon Hayes gets my vote for Hampshire
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David Goodall for me.

"Because to leave an ex-con, pennyless, homeless person on the street with poor education, drug and mental problems a recipe for disaster. The thing key to note is rehabilitation reduces crime victim numbers."

The only one of the Hampshire lot who even mentioned rehabilitation, the rest was simply "crime is bad, I want to lower crime" or something equally insightful lol.

The lack of real content in the Labour & Tory candidates is laughable.
 
elmarko1234 said:
David Goodall for me.

"Because to leave an ex-con, pennyless, homeless person on the street with poor education, drug and mental problems a recipe for disaster. The thing key to note is rehabilitation reduces crime victim numbers."

The only one of the Hampshire lot who even mentioned rehabilitation, the rest was simply "crime is bad, I want to lower crime" or something equally insightful lol.

The lack of real content in the Labour & Tory candidates is laughable.
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The problem is PCCs don't have very much if any control of rehabilitation.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
The problem is PCCs don't have very much if any control of rehabilitation.
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Could you outline the real-world powers that the commissioners will have? I'll admit - I really haven't got a clue...

You mentioned earlier that the Hampshire commissioner will appoint a new Chief Constable? Is appointing top positions one of the main responsibilities? How often do such appointments come around?

What level of influence can the commissioner have on day to day policing strategy? Would have have the power to (say) focus resources on a particular issue (drugs / anti-social behaviour / whatever), or can he only make such suggestions to senior police officers? Will he have any direct control over the police budget, or does he just act as a lobbyist of sorts, representing the force in negotiations with the government?
 
I need to be careful what I say here so I've got the guidelines open in front of me about what I should and shouldn't say.

Duff-Man said:
Could you outline the real-world powers that the commissioners will have? I'll admit - I really haven't got a clue...
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The Wiki page is ok for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_and_Crime_Commissioner#Role_and_functions

Duff-Man said:
You mentioned earlier that the Hampshire commissioner will appoint a new Chief Constable? Is appointing top positions one of the main responsibilities? How often do such appointments come around?
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Appointing and firing a Chief Constable is a responsibility of the PCC. Alex Marshall was on a 5 year contractual term. They happen usually due to retirement or moving of position or if it's London because they seem to fire the commissioner every 6 months.

Duff-Man said:
What level of influence can the commissioner have on day to day policing strategy? Would have have the power to (say) focus resources on a particular issue (drugs / anti-social behaviour / whatever), or can he only make such suggestions to senior police officers? Will he have any direct control over the police budget, or does he just act as a lobbyist of sorts, representing the force in negotiations with the government?
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They do not have operational control over the police, the Chief Constable has that responsibility. Basically they have control over overall funding and high level strategy.

The HO has this:

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/police/police-crime-commissioners/public/what-is-pcc/role/
 
just found the labour party pcc candidates facebook page and of course its political mud slinging so so left a message asking why he wont talk about the job rather than making political points.
 
Thanks for the links Burnsy :)

I appreciate that police officers must be placed in a difficult position with all this... You guys are the ones that this change has the most influence over, you're the most qualified to discuss the ramifications, and yet you must hold your tongues for political purposes. Must be pretty tough...
 
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