Best X79 cooler

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I'm currently using a Silver Arrow with stock fans. It's not the coolest running chip I've ever had, but it does have 6 cores (3930K).

Now as many of you with a X79 probably know, there's not a lot of room between the top PCI-e slot and a number of CPU coolers.

I'm using a Rampage IV Extreme, I'm not sure if this has more or less space than other boards.

The gap between a graphics card in the top slot and the heatsink is a few millimetres if you count the fants as well it may be about 1mm.

I'm looking to get a slightly thinner cooler that will match the performance of the Silver Arrow.
I've been looking at the Dark Rock Pro 2 and the Phanteks coolers. Both seem to be a few millimetres narrower, but also both seem to have bits that stick on on the fan clips.
Does anyone know what sort of room you have with these? any pictures?

The other obvious solution is something like an Antec Kuhler 920 or Corsair H80/H80i. They easily solve the space issue, but are they up to the cooling performance of the Silver Arrow?

It's going to go in a TJ11, which I do expect to watercool, eventually. But I want to get everything in the case and running so I have a better idea of the space I'll have (trying to decide where to put the pumps). I'm not sure how long I'll run on air, if things are cool and quiet enough I may stick with it for a while, so I want a decent solution.

Thanks for any suggestions.
 
The H80 is known to have similar cooling performance to mid/high end air, I love the H70 (the predeccessor to the H80) and I've never seen temps go over 70 on my overclocked 2500K, which, even when i had it benching at 4.8ghz at 1.48v a few times (its not a great chip) kept the temps around 80.

Here are my temps, as they have been in the past few days:

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Obviously not completely relevent to your situation. However it will give you no issues with your PCIe slot spacing. And its a good leg up to full watercooling, as it will give you an idea of how you mount a radiator and how good it is (and how much better a full watercooling loop will be).
 
You could look at the new corsair H100i hopefully they have sorted out the problems with its predecessor.
 
Rossi~ said:
I'm looking at getting this, hopefully it available this side of Christmas so i can install it in the Corsair Vengeance C70. Definitely looks like they've done an overhaul.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20918&Itemid=47

It would replace my Phanteks that only just keeps my 3930K under 80c @ 4.5GHz
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To improve cooling performance over previous generations, the Hydro Series H100i and H80i coolers use new, more efficient copper cold plates, improved manifolds, optimized fan designs, and larger diameter tubing for increased coolant flow
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Maybe when the show us something besides advertising hype.. like maybe some real specs of what it is and how well it actually cools.. we will have some idea of what it actually is. :D
 
doyll said:
Maybe when the show us something besides advertising hype.. like maybe some real specs of what it is and how well it actually cools.. we will have some idea of what it actually is. :D
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The H100 is better than the Phanteks anyway, especially mounting wise! The only reason i haven't got one now is because my case can't take it and the questionable reliability, which i'm happy to gamble on.
 
Rossi~ said:
I'm looking at getting this, hopefully it available this side of Christmas so i can install it in the Corsair Vengeance C70. Definitely looks like they've done an overhaul.
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20918&Itemid=47

It would replace my Phanteks that only just keeps my 3930K under 80c @ 4.5GHz
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I'm thinking of getting this case for a second build, also thinking either the Corsair or the NZXT Kraken, will the rads fit in the roof, though?
 
You'll be disappointed going to one of those ALC units, especially the Antec 920 or the Corsair H80. I imagine the only reason you are worried about the top PCIe slot is because of potentially running SLI. If you currently only have the one card, then stick with your SA. If you then plan on using the top slot, then the Phanteks, K2 or Noctua will be fine. Or if you're planning to WC in the future, just stick with your SA for now.
 
Due to having the TJ11 I can only fit an ALC that has a single 120mm rad :(

and yes i'm hoping to go to either SLI or Crossfire so would want to use the top slot. Seems like a bit of an oversight to me, putting the CPU socket that close to the top PCI-e slot.

Thanks for the reply Helios, guessing you'e had experience of all/most of those coolers?
Can you confirm that with all those coolers that none of the fan clips will cause an issue? (As they seem to be the bit that sicks out the widest)
 
Rooster212 said:
The H80 is known to have similar cooling performance to mid/high end air.
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While true in the most part for SB and IB processors this common conception sort of goes out of the window for hex core SB-E.

To put it in perspective under normal circumstances the coolers operate in similar ways (sorry if you know this but everyone reading may not), firstly the heat is taken away from the CPU to the main body of the rad/heatsink, for sealed water this is simply the water transferring the heat to the rad, for air its the heatpipes transferring the heat to the bulk of the heatsink.

Secondly the heat is then blown away by the fans on the rad/heatsink. The obvious factor here is the bigger the rad/heatsink the better as more area and/or better/faster fans means more heat dissipation. The problematic issue is obvious, as overclocks rise the is a limit to the amount of heat that can be dissipated by the rad/heatsink before the fans begin to sound like vacuum cleaners.

With SB-E hex however the issue changes, and as overclocks rise the race to get the heat off the heatsink/rad becomes a race to actually get the heat from the CPU to the heatsink/rad fast enough, this issue has less of an impact on sealed water as it is better at doing this than heatpipes.

Having said all that custom loop > both :P
 
As I said yes it wouldn't be completely relevant, I know most of that, as I said it would likely be the same as mid to high end air. I think that a good choice would be the H100i as has been said. I've never had an issue with heat dissipation I must say, even with silly volts on a boiling day, but 6 cores may be different.

I'd just like to see the H100i on that chip and see some prime temps to be honest :p
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Due to having the TJ11 I can only fit an ALC that has a single 120mm rad :(

and yes i'm hoping to go to either SLI or Crossfire so would want to use the top slot. Seems like a bit of an oversight to me, putting the CPU socket that close to the top PCI-e slot.

Thanks for the reply Helios, guessing you'e had experience of all/most of those coolers?
Can you confirm that with all those coolers that none of the fan clips will cause an issue? (As they seem to be the bit that sicks out the widest)
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I'm currently using the K2 with the R4E and it's the widest of the top coolers, bar the Silver Arrow. I can still use the top slot but it does mean I would have to install the cooler first then the gcard. If I need to remove the fans, I would have to remove the gcard in the top slot first. That said, if you're not regularly changing fans, you should be ok.
 
ubersonic said:
With SB-E hex however the issue changes, and as overclocks rise the race to get the heat off the heatsink/rad becomes a race to actually get the heat from the CPU to the heatsink/rad fast enough, this issue has less of an impact on sealed water as it is better at doing this than heatpipes.

Having said all that custom loop > both :P
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Sort of makes it sound like these would be better with a hex-core then?
Or did I mis-read?
 
Thermalright Silver Arrow SB E Extreme CPU Cooler TY-143 Fans (Socket 2011/1366/1155/1156/775/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1 ) @ £64.99 inc VAT

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8 X 6mm sintered heat-pipes effectively takes away excessive heat from the CPU when overclocked, Nickel Plated heat-pipes, slower Oxidation and deterioration of the heat-pipes, provides longer period of Thermal conductivity.

Double fin design , each side with 154mm*120mm heat dissipation area, can be used with 14 or 15 cm fan ( fan clips included).

Special Arrow fin design, which allows cool air to pass through and take heat away rapidly, effectively provide cooling for the cpu.

Support Multiple-Platforms. Can be used on Socket 2011/1366/1155/1156/775 Platform, and AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1 Sockets.

Including Two TY-143 high speed PWM fans and specialized PWM Y-Cable. With the compatibility of up to 3 fans maximum.

Cooler Dimension: Length 155mm x Width 105mm x Height 165mm (without fans) 155mm x Width 130mm x 165mm (with both TY-143 fan installed)

Cooler weight: 1114g (including two Fan, without mounting brackets)

Heat-pipe: 6mm Sintered Heat-pipe*8 units

Cooler Base Material: C1100 Pure Copper with Nickel Plating.


Fan Dimension:

TY-143 Length 151mm x Width 26.5mm x Height 141mm

TY-143 Fan Speed: 600~2500 RPM (PWM)

TY-143 Fan noise level: 21~45dBA

Fan Airflow: 31-130CFM


*The TY Series Fan can be pluged into the 3 pin; you can tell from the jack, there is fool-proof design on the jack so wrong installation of the pins are avoided.
*This fan is designed with PWM function, so full speed will apply when pluged into 3 pins instead of 4 pins.
*Only use the included PWM Y-Cable when plugging two TY-143 to the same PWM socket. Do not use third party Y-Cables.

Only £64.99 inc VAT.

ORDER NOW
 
IIRC someone tested the original Silver Arrow with similar high cfm fans to TY-143 against the new Silver Arrow SB-E with same fans. The old Silver arrow was almost as good at max cooling but not quite as good at low cfm idle. ;)

Edit: Here's the graph of test
http://cdn.overclock.net/f/fe/fe040ca0_chart.PNG

No hotlinked images. Thank you.
 
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rjkoneill said:
Thermalright Silver Arrow SB E Extreme CPU Cooler TY-143 Fans (Socket 2011/1366/1155/1156/775/AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1 ) @ £64.99 inc VAT

HS-099-TR_400.jpg


8 X 6mm sintered heat-pipes effectively takes away excessive heat from the CPU when overclocked, Nickel Plated heat-pipes, slower Oxidation and deterioration of the heat-pipes, provides longer period of Thermal conductivity.

Double fin design , each side with 154mm*120mm heat dissipation area, can be used with 14 or 15 cm fan ( fan clips included).

Special Arrow fin design, which allows cool air to pass through and take heat away rapidly, effectively provide cooling for the cpu.

Support Multiple-Platforms. Can be used on Socket 2011/1366/1155/1156/775 Platform, and AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+/FM1 Sockets.

Including Two TY-143 high speed PWM fans and specialized PWM Y-Cable. With the compatibility of up to 3 fans maximum.

Cooler Dimension: Length 155mm x Width 105mm x Height 165mm (without fans) 155mm x Width 130mm x 165mm (with both TY-143 fan installed)

Cooler weight: 1114g (including two Fan, without mounting brackets)

Heat-pipe: 6mm Sintered Heat-pipe*8 units

Cooler Base Material: C1100 Pure Copper with Nickel Plating.


Fan Dimension:

TY-143 Length 151mm x Width 26.5mm x Height 141mm

TY-143 Fan Speed: 600~2500 RPM (PWM)

TY-143 Fan noise level: 21~45dBA

Fan Airflow: 31-130CFM


*The TY Series Fan can be pluged into the 3 pin; you can tell from the jack, there is fool-proof design on the jack so wrong installation of the pins are avoided.
*This fan is designed with PWM function, so full speed will apply when pluged into 3 pins instead of 4 pins.
*Only use the included PWM Y-Cable when plugging two TY-143 to the same PWM socket. Do not use third party Y-Cables.

Only £64.99 inc VAT.

ORDER NOW
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It's nice, but there's not a hope in hell that it'd fit :(

doyll said:
IIRC someone tested the original Silver Arrow with similar high cfm fans to TY-143 against the new Silver Arrow SB-E with same fans. The old Silver arrow was almost as good at max cooling but not quite as good at low cfm idle. ;)
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I'm tempted to do this, but doesn't solve the space issue.
 
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