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No GK110. Instead GK114 will be the GTX 780

I think the 8xxx and 7xx won't be as expensive at launch as the 7xxx and 6xx. Its just a refresh, not a whole new architecture and fabrication process to pay for. hopefully both companies will release their cards around the same time. 3-4 months of price gouging is not good for anyone.

Edit: I see Marine is carrying on as the self appointed spokesperson of OFGPU, lol
 
Jokester said:
Prices don't drop for new top end cards.
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If there's one certainty in life, it is that the 8970 will be £400 :p

Just for fun, here's a wild stab in the dark (entirely without proof)

8970 - £399
8950 - £329
8870 - £259
8850 - £229

For day 1 pricing. I'm pretty sure early adopters would be willing to pay those prices.
 
FoxEye said:
If there's one certainty in life, it is that the 8970 will be £400 :p

Just for fun, here's a wild stab in the dark (entirely without proof)

8970 - £399
8950 - £329
8870 - £259
8850 - £229

For day 1 pricing. I'm pretty sure early adopters would be willing to pay those prices.
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I reckon a tad more expensive.

8970 - £429
8950 - £379
8870 - £289
8850 - £249

Now all we have to do is remember we guessed these prices for when the cards actually come out :p
 
FoxEye said:
Curious, why do you think the 8970/8950 will be cheaper than the 7970/7950?
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Will be a little bit cheaper due to a more mature 28nm process, cheaper to produce etc. It's up to AMD / Nvidia if they pass the saving on to the customer, I think AMD will drop prices a bit, doubtful Nvidia will ;-).
 
So even these newer cards will not be worth swapping SLI 480 for:)

Think I'll just upgrade cpu to a 3770K to make sure i am getting the most out of my 480's.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Will be a little bit cheaper due to a more mature 28nm process, cheaper to produce etc. It's up to AMD / Nvidia if they pass the saving on to the customer, I think AMD will drop prices a bit, doubtful Nvidia will ;-).
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Even if AMD/nV did charge less this gen, the retailers would just mark them up to the previous gens prices.

The retailers know very well what the market value of these cards is. If AMD/nV sell the cards cheap to the retailers, they will rub their hands with glee, and you can bet we won't see the saving as consumers.
 
FoxEye said:
Even if AMD/nV did charge less this gen, the retailers would just mark them up to the previous gens prices.

The retailers know very well what the market value of these cards is. If AMD/nV sell the cards cheap to the retailers, they will rub their hands with glee, and you can bet we won't see the saving as consumers.
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Sadly you are probably right :(
 
psychodil said:
Edit: I see Marine is carrying on as the self appointed spokesperson of OFGPU, lol
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Just because you don't miss the 5870 launch at around £330, or GTX570 at sub £300, doesn't mean others don't.

Yea sure...why not have the cards launch at at £330/£450 again just like the 7950/7970 and not doing anyone any favour, so that people have to wait another 8 months before opening up their wallet just like this gen?
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Just because you don't miss the 5870 launch at around £330, or GTX570 at sub £300, doesn't mean others don't.

Yea sure...why not have the cards launch at at £330/£450 again just like the 7950/7970 and not doing anyone any favour, so that people have to wait another 8 months before opening up their wallet just like this gen?
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Of course I miss those prices, but they sold out pretty quickly if you remember, so that won't happen again.

And don't say it won't help anybody if they launch at £450, it will certainly help AMD who need the money. Would you be happy for AMD to sell their new cards at £200 and then go out of business? Thought not.

Your posts are getting tiresome as all you ever seem to post about is what the prices should be. That is just your opinion and you are welcome to have it, but it isn't fact.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Just because you don't miss the 5870 launch at around £330, or GTX570 at sub £300, doesn't mean others don't.

Yea sure...why not have the cards launch at at £330/£450 again just like the 7950/7970 and not doing anyone any favour, so that people have to wait another 8 months before opening up their wallet just like this gen?
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Don't forget the 4850 and 4870's prices either.
 
psychodil said:
Of course I miss those prices, but they sold out pretty quickly if you remember, so that won't happen again.

And don't say it won't help anybody if they launch at £450, it will certainly help AMD who need the money. Would you be happy for AMD to sell their new cards at £200 and then go out of business? Thought not.

Your posts are getting tiresome as all you ever seem to post about is what the prices should be. That is just your opinion and you are welcome to have it, but it isn't fact.
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You should try and avoid strawmanning his argument because he didn't say their new cards for £200.

To me, high AMD prices say only one thing, poor yields. When yields improve, the price will go down to improve demand.
 
psychodil said:
Of course I miss those prices, but they sold out pretty quickly if you remember, so that won't happen again.

And don't say it won't help anybody if they launch at £450, it will certainly help AMD who need the money. Would you be happy for AMD to sell their new cards at £200 and then go out of business? Thought not.

Your posts are getting tiresome as all you ever seem to post about is what the prices should be. That is just your opinion and you are welcome to have it, but it isn't fact.
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There's a different between ridiculous high price, sensible price, and ridiculously low price. You are going to the extreme like I'm saying AMD should launch their high-end card at under £200 and kill themselves off, when I was merely pointing out that the 79xx wasn't even really shifting at the £330/£450 launch price, so why waste everyones' time including their own, when shifting higher volume at a more reasonable price would in the early months reduce the number of people play the waiting game on Nvidia and eventually lose sales to them? Do we seriously want to see the new cards like the 79xx card on today only with 20 of them in the morning, and still 20 of them by night back in launch? Higher price do not always mean higher profit if they are shifting at a much slower rate. Unless they are having serious issue with the supplying of their chip.

The only reason why the 5850/5870 was of short-supplied was only because it was the first cards to bring dx11 to the table and was hugely faster than the gen before it; cards since then has only brought minor speed bump and slightly lower power consumption comparing to the gen before them, hardly gonna make people mad dash for them and pull them off the shelves at £300~

Most people draw the ceiling on the max amount of money they'd spend on a single graphic card around £250~£350, whereas people that are willing to pay £400+ make for a relatively small % in comparison.
 
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The £200 was an example, I didn't quote him :rolleyes:

The advantage AMD had when they released their cards is that they could charge a premium, they were priced against the 3gb 580's. I don't like the prices as much as the next man but they wouldn't rich the cards to market unless there was some more wedge in it for them.

All of the cards they sold at top dollar keeps the average sale price per unit up, which is what investors want to see.
 
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