There's no way anyone could forget nVidia's early Vista drivers.
Can anyone say "Class Action Lawsuit"?
I had AMD I think... Can't quite remember!
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DirectX 11.1 exclusive to Windows 8, Microsoft confirms
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I had AMD I think... Can't quite remember!
Agreed. Why would a company produce new features for a now replaced OS? Win 7 still works just as well as ever, it just won't have new features added, it's not some kind of evil rolly eye M$ plan beyond they are a company who's aim strangely enough is to make money. Win 8 takes the best of Win 7, improves it in a bunch of areas pretty much without breaking anything and currently costs less than the price of a single console game.Well put
Nothing wrong with Windows 8 at all. Even my mother's using it! I didn't even have to force her either. I happened to mention it was coming out and she TOLD me she'd have a copy
As for the DirectX thing, I don't see the problem. Just because XP's hung around for more than a decade, doesn't mean all other Operating Systems have to. Microsoft always used to be on a three year cycle before XP, and the only reason XP stayed so long was because of Vista's poor takeup. Linux also has a finite support lifetime, and I'd assume OSX does (although I know slightly less than nothing about Apple's support lifecycle).
You can't expect developers to continue supporting *old* stuff forever. Technology moves on. Either move with it or resign yourself to the fact you're probably going to be very disappointed quite a lot of the time.
Time to move along the bus and encourage companies to try to innovate and bring change rather than the same old same old.
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Windows 8 is good and bringing out DirectX 11.1 for it is even better
I actually tend to think if Windows 7 had been released instead of Vista it would have had the bad reputation. Vista was actually a great OS but it pushed hardware for it's time. For example it took full advantage of GPU acceleration for 2D desktop effects as well as games and completely re wrote the driver model (which is why there were the wails of hate from people whose 5 year old scanner would never work again
). The new driver model caught a bunch of hardware manufacturers with small, complacent driver writing teams on the hop and forced them to produce robust much more efficient/stable driver without trying to bypass the OS and use dubious techniques to try to write direct to hardware opening up all sorts of stability and security problems.It took some time for hardware and driver writers to catch up but I'd say it was a key OS. Before Vista MS had a bad reputation for instability and security in an OS, Since Vista, well, Kaperskys top 10 vulnerabilities were published last week and not a single one was Microsoft/Windows. As for stability, how many of us go for months without seeing a bluescreen where with XP it was a weekly if not daily occurrence.
Vista took the hit moving things forward so Windows 7 could be the "hero" when it was released. I tend to think Windows 8 will be the same, taking a hit for changes that Windows 9 will be hailed for as people don't like change.
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the X1XXX and 2XXX series
I don't buy that Vista was bloated either, seriously there was very little difference between it and 7, the biggest difference was that by the time 7 came about, the baseline of average computers had rose dramatically, giving the impression that 7 was faster and better optimised.
I meant in comparison to XP.
To be honest the tweaks I made to it made it run lovely anyway. It did hog a lot more resources than XP did but that was just due to people holding on to low spec PCs. I had a fairly decently specced machine at the time from memory.
Hmmm I skipped those series. God knows what card I had problems with! Ha ha. Maybe my 9800XT still.
Windows 7 was definitely better upon release. It was less bloated, UAC wasn't so intrusive, and driver support was understandably much better. Vista was a nightmare for early adopters due to drivers not working (as Athanor stated). I used the same PC (apart from GPU) for windows 7 as I did for vista, and things were noticeably snappier when I upgraded to 7. Boot times and shutdown times were hugely improved too.
I suppose that's what I was getting at, to me, it was the equivalent of getting upset that your PC that ran Half Life at max settings, struggled with Half Life 2 and ignoring the very obvious fact that it needs more resources to run.
I understand what you mean, but it's all relative isn't it?
Windows 7 was relatively less bloated than Vista compared to the hardware available for the same price. I'm not saying 7 isn't/wasn't faster than Vista, but more it wasn't faster BECAUSE it was 7, but because there had been 2 years where MS tweaked the OS for the best, released a few service packs, and companies had proper drivers out for it.
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The majority of modern day games don't even use DX11 so I don't see what the fuss is about to be fair.
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Nothing of worry, most games are console ports and DX10 or below, only a few percentage are genuine DX11.
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Plus it looks like the next gen consoles might be on dx11 cards.
The problem with this is that I don't think most people know what "console port" genuinely means (which isn't what you've suggested).
win8 will still look **** no matter what dx11 they stick on it
I feel like you don't quite get what DX does based on this comment.
does it make metro look cool and hip?Cool and hip?
haha nevermind,its just microsoft marketing for you,dx11.1 for win8 only,same for when dx10 came out for vista only and not xp,i remember crysis not supporting dx10 on xp when it came out but there were reg/game hacks to get around it that would enable day/night in servers and other features ect
tbh i cant see 11.1 bringing much more to games and what it does bring youd probably be hard pushed to notice it