Laptops aren't meant for gaming, buy a desktop instead...

Interesting points and as usual some very blinkered points of view.

I travel a great deal with work and am often stuck in hotel rooms for several days at a time with very little to do. Most of the time there is a semi functional broadband connection available. I'd be seriously bored without the ability to occupy my time with my gaming laptop. I had a 17" alienware, which was simply too bulky and heavy to lug around and constantly pull from its bag through airport security so I bought the smaller m14x which offers great portability/performance. It's still a little heavy but does the job quite well. I wish manufacturers would resist the urge to automatically make gaming capable laptops look like a toy though!

Oh and I do read, use the gym and go out when there's stuff to see/do, but sadly many of the places I go to have little to offer in that regard.


It would be fantastic if a manufacturer came up with an upgradeable modular laptop design to extend the lives of our machines as you can with a regular desktop machine. To some extent you can do this with the clevo machines but it isn't necessarily that easy to obtain the next graphics chipset as they are afaik not on general sale and hence fetch a premium price.
 
Im agreeing with the power being there vs desktop. Given that not everyone runs the top CPU with the top card in sli / crossfire. A laptop ivy bridge, 8gb ram and a 7970m / 680m is going to run all games on max for some years to come ( 5yrs? and more for lesser settings)

Well, i'd say possibly around 3 years tops before it struggles on Max/Ultra settings with the latest games.

However. The screen on a laptop is generally poor. The batteries fade over time (buy two at purchase) the keyboard isnt interchangeable and could get damaged easily with no cheap fix. The drivers for the laptop gpu are different to the desktop and there have been many issues for people. There are other misses like getting DTS-HD or 4k support from the HDMi.
the noise they can make is often louder than people expect or want. the better the power the heavier and less mobile they are.
Screens are good on the Alienwares and Clevos, check Notebookreview. Keyboards are always interchangeable... i've never seen a laptop keyboard that wasn't?

they are a trinket, a toy, a charm.
They are productive, mobile, flexible, and power-efficient. :)
 
Interesting points and as usual some very blinkered points of view.

I travel a great deal with work and am often stuck in hotel rooms for several days at a time with very little to do. Most of the time there is a semi functional broadband connection available. I'd be seriously bored without the ability to occupy my time with my gaming laptop.

I can identify with what this guy is saying. I work abroad on an oil rig - month on, month off. If I want to play games when I'm away, I need a decent laptop.
Everybody has different needs so to blindly say that no-one should buy a gaming laptop because a desktop is better value for money is just ridiculous. I live alone so, a desktop for gaming suits me fine as I'm fortunate enough to be able to play games whenever I like without disturbing anyone else. I can fully understand, however, that for some people, a desktop is not a practical solution and a laptop suits their needs better. I'm fortunate enough that I can afford both but for a lot of people, it's either/or. In my current job, if I couldn't afford both, I would have just a gaming laptop as that would suit me best. If I had a normal job where I went home every night (perish the thought :p), I'd only have a desktop. As I said before, different people have different requirements - there is no "one size fits all" solution.
 
I recently bought myself a Clevo P170EM with an i7, 16GB ram and GTX680M, and I love the performance on it. It's easily comparable with my desktop (i5 2500K, 8GB ram, GTX480), and so far has ran all the games I have tried at the highest detail, generally getting the same, or even slightly better FPS than my desktop. I also love the fact I can game downstairs while the wife is watching TV, so it doesn't feel like I'm leaving her alone when I want to play something on the computer. Laptop gaming is definitely the way forward for me :)
 
I used to have a lovely desktop PC in a spare bedroom. Now with 2 very young children the fixed immobile desktop PC had to go. The only place I have left is the dining room table (and on occasion hooking up to the TV).

I now have a great clevo gaming laptop with I7 & 680m which i love...even more so than my old desktop. Agree it costs more, possibly twice as much, but for some a gaming laptop eventually becomes a necessity.
 
Rarely is price/value for money a consideration when it comes to gaming laptops - people who buy them usually get the value for money from a different aspect than purely the base specification. Plus most current hardware in mid-range to high end gaming laptops are more than capable of playing current games fine... its not that hard to hook up a keyboard and mouse or even a monitor to them either.

For me it was worth the premium over comparable desktop hardware as it saves a lot of space and is far easier to pack up and move than a full blown desktop.

While the graphics hardware on mine is going to be a bottleneck before anything else (the 3610QM and 16GB RAM easily compares to all but the highest end stock desktop configurations and favorably against overclocked mid-range CPUs) the GTX675m in mine while often maligned is more than capable - granted I'm running mine with a fair overclock but its not much slower than the GTX480/570 on the desktop (at stock more GTX560 non-ti ballpark) - which is perfectly capable of running the latest games at 1920x1080 with high/max settings aslong as you don't go too nuts with the AA.

PS The panel on mine is pretty decent - 1920x1080 @ 120Hz with good color accuracy, good contrast ratio and so on - while I mostly have it hooked up to a BenQ XL2420T its still perfectly adequate when I'm at a location where I don't have space to take the monitor with me.
 
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Me l love gaming l have both :)

Being stuck in a location without a gaming system is a right pain, my P170EM will go with me when l am away from my family and the desktop will stay when l commute home.

Regards.

C.
 
agreed, some people want to play games on the move, dont have a lot of space etc and even a mid range card like a 650m or even a 635m is capable of playing most games on medium/high at 768 res and do you really need a higher resolution for that screen size!
 
+1

Don't overlook downsizing on screen resolutions for better graphic performance. I have an M14xR1 (3gb GT555m) with a 1600x900 res. I can play any game out there right now on it albeit with the latest titles on reduced quality settings. It was one of the fastest performing gaming laptops around when it was released and best of all its 14" screen so remains compact (granted its still heavy!)

I'll look to replace it within the next yr but will still consider going for the upgraded R2 (or r3 if one surface) although I'd also take a very close look at the Clevo P150 unless anything comes to market by then.
 
To be honest.. anyone on this part of the forum is already a convert.

But, to play devil's advocate.

On a laptop...
Where's my 2560x1440 screen? or my 3x 1920x1080 Eyefinity?
Where's my Cherry Brown switched keyboard?
Where's my quiet watercooling system?
Where's my 3TB hard disk for storing all my stuff?
Where's my TRIM for my RAIDed SSDs?

Sure, I could connect bigger screen(s), mechanical keyboard, 3TB external to my laptop... but then what would be the point?
 
You can do 3x1920x1080 if you get a laptop with DP, they exist...

External 'board if you need one... KBT Pure\Race are small enough to pop into your bag along with your laptop.

Why would you *want* watercooling in a laptop? They don't run *that* loud.

I have a 1Tb internal... Good enough for me, I have a server and decent wireless\internet (so I can VPN in and stream if I want to)

I believe with the latest current gen boards, they support TRIM on R0 SSDs. I don't have RAID0 on my laptop, I chose to have a 60Gb cache for my 1Tb...
 
To be honest.. anyone on this part of the forum is already a convert.

But, to play devil's advocate.

On a laptop...
Where's my 2560x1440 screen? or my 3x 1920x1080 Eyefinity?
Where's my Cherry Brown switched keyboard?
Where's my quiet watercooling system?
Where's my 3TB hard disk for storing all my stuff?
Where's my TRIM for my RAIDed SSDs?

Sure, I could connect bigger screen(s), mechanical keyboard, 3TB external to my laptop... but then what would be the point?

Point being that not only can you use it like a desktop, but you can take your laptop and move it whenever and wherever you please. :)
 
To be honest.. anyone on this part of the forum is already a convert.

But, to play devil's advocate.

On a laptop...
Where's my 2560x1440 screen? or my 3x 1920x1080 Eyefinity?
Where's my Cherry Brown switched keyboard?
Where's my quiet watercooling system?
Where's my 3TB hard disk for storing all my stuff?
Where's my TRIM for my RAIDed SSDs?

Sure, I could connect bigger screen(s), mechanical keyboard, 3TB external to my laptop... but then what would be the point?

My have a point if someone was buying a non-gaming laptop - but gaming laptops are generally desktop replacements and they aren't bought for their portability in laptop terms they are bought for their convenience and portability relative to a desktop system.
 
To be honest.. anyone on this part of the forum is already a convert.

But, to play devil's advocate.

On a laptop...
Where's my 2560x1440 screen? or my 3x 1920x1080 Eyefinity?
Where's my Cherry Brown switched keyboard?
Where's my quiet watercooling system?
Where's my 3TB hard disk for storing all my stuff?
Where's my TRIM for my RAIDed SSDs?

Sure, I could connect bigger screen(s), mechanical keyboard, 3TB external to my laptop... but then what would be the point?

Whilst playing devil's advocate, you appear to have completely missed the point of portability.

I have most of what you list above - watercooled system, triple sli, 3x 1920x1080 etc. etc. which is fantastic - when I'm at home. Unfortunately, there's no way I can lug all that lot on 3 planes and a helicopter once a month when I go to and come back from work. The need for portability requires compromises. A gaming laptop gives me the portability I need with acceptable performance. Sure it's not ideal but, it's better than tablet gaming :p
 
The theme I'm getting from this thread is that it's the women folk driving advances in gaming laptops ;)

The arrival of my my daughter hammered the final nail in my desktop gaming habit. Also really considering a P150EM with 7970m as a Christmas present to myself, and I was a hardened gaming laptop skeptic
 
To be honest.. anyone on this part of the forum is already a convert.

But, to play devil's advocate.

On a laptop...
Where's my 2560x1440 screen? or my 3x 1920x1080 Eyefinity?
On your desk
Where's my Cherry Brown switched keyboard?
On your desk
Where's my quiet watercooling system?
Evian count?
Where's my 3TB hard disk for storing all my stuff?
In your NAS, attached to the router
Where's my TRIM for my RAIDed SSDs?
Who really needs RAID SSDs? Aside from ewang waving

Sure, I could connect bigger screen(s), mechanical keyboard, 3TB external to my laptop... but then what would be the point?
You can close your laptop and walk off with it?
 
The need for portability requires compromises. A gaming laptop gives me the portability I need with acceptable performance. Sure it's not ideal but, it's better than tablet gaming :p

Sure, which may make a compelling case for having a gaming laptop as a secondary machine to a main gaming rig. But given that, unless you're a travelling businessperson or something, 99% of the time, when you're playing games is on a desk in your house...
 
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