Religion question?

So, let me get this straight. You're claiming that Charles Darwin, who died in 1882, was a supporter of the Nazi party? A political party that didn't get going until around 1919-1920. How does that work then?

Darwin was a hipster. Just look at that beard!

It is pretty daft for any atheist not to believe in alien life. The sheer maths of it is staggering. At least 100m (very low estimate, probably closer to 300m) stars in our galaxy alone, Hubble detected almost 3000 galaxies in just one 24-millionth of the sky. I honestly cant see how anyone can think we are alone in all that, let alone the other 23-millionths of the sky.
Have they visited Earth? You can debate that for forever and a day.
 
Not to me. Until said god shows itself to me then I think its a load of codswallop.

I have never seen an elephant in person (true), therefore, they do not exist.

Now I am atheist, but to suggest something doesn't exist because you haven't seen it is just silly.
 
I have never seen an elephant in person (true), therefore, they do not exist.

Now I am atheist, but to suggest something doesn't exist because you haven't seen it is just silly.

Well put it another way. Until this omipotent being shows its self to CBS news showing that is responsible for creating the universe then I still have my doubts.

I've never seen a chocolate teapot orbiting the sun but I'd guess that they do not exist.
 
This is even more retarded than the usual monthly "lolreligion" thread in GD.

We managed to get God, Darwin, Nazism and ghosts on the first page! Only Hitchens, Dawkins and some scripture for full house.

/Salsa
 
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Other than the fact that many of darwins theories were influences within the nazi regime, thats probably why he is considered a pro nazi, and to the hipster quote, I guess you could called him a hipster nazi. For example, Darwin's elimination of the weak and the struggle for survival in the evolution process. Jews?
Survival of the fittest - superior people - superior race - nazi's.
Just because he died before the nazi regime began doesn't mean he didn't influence it.

On the topic of ghosts, I believe in them because I have witnessed one. Aliens, its rude not to believe in them.
 
Other than the fact that many of darwins theories were influences within the nazi regime, thats probably why he is considered a pro nazi, and to the hipster quote, I guess you could called him a hipster nazi. For example, Darwin's elimination of the weak and the struggle for survival in the evolution process. Jews?
Survival of the fittest - superior people - superior race - nazi's.
Just because he died before the nazi regime began doesn't mean he didn't influence it.

I think we've heard enough to know exactly which pigeon hole to slot you into on this forum.

You may notice it's a bit worn, we've been blessed with a rather large number of raving nutters of the years, heck you'll probably be sharing with a few of them.
 
Other than the fact that many of darwins theories were influences within the nazi regime, thats probably why he is considered a pro nazi, and to the hipster quote, I guess you could called him a hipster nazi. For example, Darwin's elimination of the weak and the struggle for survival in the evolution process. Jews?
Survival of the fittest - superior people - superior race - nazi's.
Just because he died before the nazi regime began doesn't mean he didn't influence it.

On the topic of ghosts, I believe in them because I have witnessed one. Aliens, its rude not to believe in them.

This is utter rubbish, you should learn how to use apostrophes before making threads like this too.

He can't have been "Pro-Nazi" because the Nazis (see, no apostrophe) came well after him.

Even if he "influenced" them, he still wasn't "pro-Nazi". You're really reaching by trying to attribute Naziism to Darwin.
 
I don't get offended by the fact that the OP has no idea what he's talking about. What annoys me is the self-congratulatory "Hey guys, here's a thing I just came up with. Listen to THIS!" like it's some brand new concept, some amazing, fresh insight.

That's what offends me.
 
Other than the fact that many of darwins theories were influences within the nazi regime, thats probably why he is considered a pro nazi, and to the hipster quote, I guess you could called him a hipster nazi. For example, Darwin's elimination of the weak and the struggle for survival in the evolution process. Jews?
Survival of the fittest - superior people - superior race - nazi's.
Just because he died before the nazi regime began doesn't mean he didn't influence it.

On the topic of ghosts, I believe in them because I have witnessed one. Aliens, its rude not to believe in them.

Did you suffer oxygen deprivation as a baby?
 
OP, I think it can depend on what denomination you are and how you interpret the holy book. E.g. some denominations recognise the Holy Spirit, others don't.

As for aliens, I think that's more of a scientific debate than religion. A few planets with habitable atmosphere have been discovered over the last few decades. I therefore believe that there is life out there.
 
Errr, It's well know that Darwin discovered the Nazis on an expedition to the South Pacific Islands in 1854 and he brought some fine specimens back here to study.
Unfortunately some anti Nazi Vivisection activists broke in to his laboratories in Austria and freed a lot of slick haired, weird tasched males & buxom blonde females in to the wild who bred like jack rabbit boots and they ate all the indigenous Austrians. They eventually spread like a virus in to Germany, eating all the Germans and then tried eating the rest of Europe, except Switzerland as they didn't like chocolate and the rest is history.
So although Darwin wasn't pro-Nazi per se he was definitely instrumental in their rise in the developed world, he should've just left them riding giant tortoises & eating dolphins.
God told me this story.
 
I personally believe in ghosts and aliens, it is silly to think we are the only race in a universe as vast as ours, let alone the infinite possibilities of other universes and all the planets.

1) Ghosts have nothing to do with the size of the universe.

2) You believe in an afterlife. Why is that more sensible than believing in gods?

3) The universe is, by definition, everything. It's by no means certain that there are other universes, which would have to exist in other realities of some sort.

4) We don't have enough information to accurately assess the probability of intelligent life occuring. It's possible that it's so spectacularly unilikely that it has only happened here. Given the incomprehensible size of the observable universe it seems a good bet that there's at least one other intelligent species out there somewhere, but it's not silly to not believe it. We have no evidence of it, none at all.

I've never seen aliens, but there is more creditability to their existance than a god,

Taking either on faith is just that - faith. Alien people are much more credible because we can prove that people can exist, but we have no evidence of the existence of alien people.

I suppose its because I believe in the Darwin evolutionary theory,

Which only proves you don't understood the subject. Evolutionary theory has nothing to do with belief and it's not just Darwin. If you believe in it you are, as the charming phrase puts it, doing it wrong.

Also, evolutionary theory isn't evolution. Two very different things.

albeit he was a pro nazi.

It seems extremely unlikely that Darwin either travelled in time or saw into the future. He was dead before the Nazis existed.

Surely what one must ask is what created god?

Why must one? The only purpose of that question is as a rhetorical device to show the falseness of the irrational argument that the existence of the universe proves the existence of a creator on the basis that nothing can exist without a creator. It's not a question that needs an answer because the answer is irrelevant to everyone. A theist will either have a faith answer (e.g. Athena was created by Zeus) or have faith that the question contains a false assumption (i.e. that their god(s) is/are eternal and were not created). Either way, an answer isn't required. It also isn't required for an atheist, since the question contains the assumption of the existence of a god or gods and is therefore an invalid question to an atheist because they consider that a false assumption.

life forms can be created after the big bang, thats what the "god particle" debate was all about IIRC.

It had nothing at all to do with that. It was humorously called "that goddamed particle" because it was so difficult to find. The whole "god particle" thing was misdirection or misunderstanding.
 
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As for aliens, I think that's more of a scientific debate than religion. A few planets with habitable atmosphere have been discovered over the last few decades. I therefore believe that there is life out there.

Belief is not part of scientific debate.

And no, planets with habitable atmospheres have not been discovered (other than Earth). What has been discovered is a few planets that might have surface temperatures between 0 and 100 Celsius.

All this talk of Earthlike planets being discovered in other stellar systems is mainly to sell papers or page views. The most Earthlike planet discovered so far is Mars, and that's not very Earthlike. When astronomers say "Earthlike", they mean "rocky and getting very roughly the same amount of energy from its star as Earth gets from the sun".
 
They'd have to see them to believe them, but if they find it so difficult to believe in ghosts and aliens, how comes they can believe in god?

So do they think we humans are the only ones in the universe, or are they playing the card there isn't a shred of evidence to back this up, yet they still bang on about God, i hope one day all people will realise that this religious nonsense was only ever put there to control the masses:mad:
 
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