There are all sorts of misunderstandings with it, most of it intentionally so, it would be hilarious if I didn't have to deal with it once or twice in life when people have owed me money.
Law of police pulling you over?
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There are all sorts of misunderstandings with it, most of it intentionally so, it would be hilarious if I didn't have to deal with it once or twice in life when people have owed me money.
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That'll be section 4 rather than section 5 if the RTA. We can't require a sample of breath unless we suspect you've been drinking, you've been involved in an RTC, or you've been involved in a moving traffic offence.
Who owns my car then?
A car belongs to whoever buys it.
Well IMO you do but the DVLA have some rights over ownership or possession if the car has a registration plate. I never fully got my head around it myself.
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No, it's a common misunderstanding from freemen. Don't listen to armchair lawyers.
What would be enough of a suspicion of drink driving? Would refusing a volentary breath test be enough for the Police to say they suspect you have been drink driving and then mandate one?
a few years back in glasgow around this time, im taking a mate home from a christmas party in the city centre to the southside of glasgow. one of the main bridges in and out was coned down to one lane.
police had about 7 or 8 cars all lined up at the side of the road pulling people in.
didnt really bother me but traffic was heavy and this wasnt helping.
got breathalised and sent on my way.
saw a few people getting cuffed while i was there though.
it may be a detterant but a lot of stupid people are still going to risk it.
police had about 7 or 8 cars all lined up at the side of the road pulling people in.
didnt really bother me but traffic was heavy and this wasnt helping.
got breathalised and sent on my way.
saw a few people getting cuffed while i was there though.
it may be a detterant but a lot of stupid people are still going to risk it.
It was talked about when the CIE scheme was in its infancy. This is not information from the internet, freemen or armchair lawyers.
Continuous Insurance Enforcement.
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Bit of a pain if they are causing a traffic jam. Whenever I've seen them its usually in a layby and they only pull over cars if there is space in the layby to stop them.
Having driven past the same regular random check point every day over 3 Christmas's, and driving a Clio with a chavvy exhast, I've never actually been stopped.
Having driven past the same regular random check point every day over 3 Christmas's, and driving a Clio with a chavvy exhast, I've never actually been stopped.
Doesn't it come partly from the fact the DVLA own the registration plates? (and can iirc revoke them if misused).
I love freemen of the land, but then I don't have to ever deal with them, just laugh at them (and feel a lot of sympathy for the Police and courts that have to deal with them)..
Burnsy, childish question to Mr Policeman time. Say I was drink driving and got pulled over by the police, jumped out of the car, threw the keys away and downed half a bottle of whiskey, would they have to let me off as they couldn't prove I'd been drinking while driving?
For the record, I don't drink and drive and think anyone who does is a bit of a scumbag.
For the record, I don't drink and drive and think anyone who does is a bit of a scumbag.
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No. I would suggest you either need a tip off, smell alcohol, have some sort of admittance of drinking or some other behavior which suggests alcohol had been consumed.
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Indeed you use the plates under licence.
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I'm not replying because the reply needs more than a quick message written on a phone in Berlin
There's no such thing as a voluntary breath test, its either required or not. Suspicion could come from something you say, the smell of your breath, your behaviour, or possibly the manner of your driving.
The whiskey bottle would be siezed, and it is possible theoretically I believe to work out how much you had in your system before you started downing the bottle of whiskey. There's also a good chance you'd be rugby tackled before you got to the bottle
Yeah I know, but I'm just thinking that someone who isnt a nob and hasn't been drinking would have no reason to refuse one if they were asked at one of these random stops to do it volentarily. To me if someone says no that mean they are either a nob, or may have actually been drinking, so would that be enough of a reason for the police to then suspect you of drinking? If it can be as simple as something you say or your behavour that is used as a reason to require a breath test, can you saying "no" to one be enough?
Just a thought. If I were asking someone to provde a breath test and they refused and then refused to give a reason why it would definately make me suspect that they might have been drinking.
Bottom line, dont drink and drive, be nice to the police officer, give them a breath sample, wish them Happy Christmas and be on your way in a couple of minutes. Simples.