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dileama here ladies an gents - my 7870 is on its way back today and rather than straight swap ive decided to look at moving up the graphics tree

Mobo - Asus sabertooth 990FX
CPU - FX8120 (stock yet as dont trust the stock fan to cool it any further - prime95 put it upto 62C within 5 mins at stock - closed loop watercooler being researched)
RAM - Crossair Vengance 2133Mhz (2x4gig)
PSU - HX750 (intend to sli/xfire at time of purchase of 3x 3d screens - we can dream)
HDD - not telling ya its crap sata2 type

Now i have no working gaming comp at mo (feel my arms have gone missing)

originally was just going to get 2x 7950s but been advised against that an to either go for the 7970 or 680 as will get a better frame rate outta them on a wider selection of games as not all use the 2nd gpu from what i understand :confused:

I currently play

Guild wars 2 - planetside 2 - battlefield 3 - Dirt 3 an showdown - sleeping dogs - most C&C games - Hitman - assassins creed - i may get into a little level designing on games


just the pro an cons of these 2 would be nice help or even throw more into the mix if you like

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-181-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-013-KF&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=2255

Thank you for reading and any all comments appre an no offence can be taken as i just to laid back;)
 
I'd stay with your original choice of 2 X 7950's .

The Nvidia 6xx series cards are bandwidth limited for surround and are overpriced for the performance
you get compared to 79xx series.

Never done 3D on AMD so can't help you there.

Hopefully Tommybhoy will be along to advise you on AMD 3D.
 
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Out of those two the 7970 is the better deal, But in multi screen you should defiantly go for 2x 7950's.

You might also conciser swapping your FX-8120 for an FX-8350, they are an improvement on Bulldozer, better performance, run cooler and overclock higher.

(not the FX-8320, the FX-8350 seems to be better binned)
 
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well thanks for feedback so far

seems this bottleneck thing needs looking at

I have a budget of around the £450 mark and now am thinking is it best just sell my board an chip (if someone will attually buy them - dowt tho will get much if they do sell) and move to a intel chip and get a - will do for now gfx card while get the dollar saved for a decent card(s)

so confused its unreal - all help is very very much appre an cant thank you enough for helping me spend my money in a wise way
 
I'd get a single 7950 for now, keep the FX8120, live with the bottleneck (Because your games won't become unplayable)

Then switch over with Haswell and get an 8950 to boot.

Which will be sometime Q2 2013.

Unless you want to do the full switch now, but we're 1 year and 11 months into socket 1155, it will be replaced come the next mainstream part from Intel in 2013 (Although its performance in gaming won't disappear)
 
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Get one 7950 and see how you get on, both the 7970/680 aren't worth the premium for what they bring over their smaller siblings.

Never done 3D on AMD so can't help you there.

Hopefully Tommybhoy will be along to advise you on AMD 3D.

:)

Loads of info here:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18465944

I should point out that Tridef is cpu dependant though, so how you'd get on with your current cpu I don't have a clue.

:)
 
I would keep your 7870 for now - Do you really need an upgrade? You won't see much of a difference I think.

As stated above, just wait until the next line of chips from Intel, AMD & Nvidia arrive then give yourself a good upgrade (you can always sell parts to cover the upgrade cost!)
 
Can't link to competitors.
The 7950's a good call, but I'd change the CPU/Board before I got a new monitor personally.

nice thought but think am gunna take the advice on the wait for the next gen in Q2 2013

sorry bout the competitor link didnt think (story of my life living on impulse) but all the 3d screens on this site seem little outta price range an geared towards the nvidia market (shoot me if am wrong but thought 3d screens are tied to card type)

I wasnt impressed with the 7870 in GW2 an planetside 2 - maybe they both cpu heavy an im just a complete numpty - had to run both at lowest settings just to hit above the 25 fps mark in busy areas yet a friend using 2x 6850s was hitting higher fps on planetside yet his chip is a athlon 2 quad core


what have learnt so far i think please correct me if wrong

1. dont bother getting the water cooler for the fx8120 and just make do till next gen arrives

2. a single 7950 will be ok to get me too that time

3. i know bugger all

4. dont bother with 3d till next gen arrives (may get decent screen too at less price by that time)

5. some nice helpful people on here

6. once next gen arrives look towards the intel market an be prepared to part with quite abit of cash


anything ive missed please add as really cant thank you enough for any good advice
 
GW2 is definitely CPU, not sure about planetside 2, possibly, although not sure on those frame rates, on GW2 the 7950 won't improve things (Unless you've got some freaky driver problem)

I use 3D now on a Sammy SA23700D, it'll work both Nvidia and AMD with Tridef, although the Nvidia is Side by side, whereas AMD is Frame Sequential (Superior) on it.
 
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my current screen is a (please dont slate me to much) Dell E228wfp - max rez 1680x1050 - i do have a second screen that is 1080p but its a tad smaller an a LED TV/monitor
 
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-181-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=938
is such a sexy looking card
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-148-MS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673
will this card still stand up as much in 4-5 months time when i do get the new intel chip or will the bottleneck ruin the other card when it does goto the inel board

I know there is no such thing as a stupid question just stupid people so dont worry if your answer may seem alittle harsh
 
I personally wouldn't get the lightning, too much of a prime premium.
The Intel chip won't be a bottleneck.

If you've honestly got the money right now, I'd get the 7950, sell your board and CPU and get an i5 3570k and Z77 board.

Can't see the 7950 struggling too much in 4-5 months, not at 1680x1050 at any rate :p
 
my budget is 450 till i sell/save up some more and being without games at the mo is something i would not wish on my worst enemy (unless the ****er keeps beating me at the games lol) so i cant see me selling my board/chip/ram(if the ram has to be diff) without the next board chip ram combo being here 1st (prolly get you lot to sell me a OC bundle as burnt my giga 870 mobo out just using the amd cpu overdrive - i know now not to do that and set everything through bios)

so my question is now
got 450 smackers - do i just spend 250 getting the card an save the rest towards the 1000 roughly for the next gen board an chip and 3d screen
also would it worth £70 to get the water for the fx8120 so i can OC for an increase in these chip hungry games
noticed in planetside 2 that it has option for gpu physics so assume that is for nvidia cards
 
You can keep the same RAM, here's what I'd buy for 450 ;

GPU ; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-305-SP
CPU ; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-418-IN
Board ; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BG-252-GI
Cooler ; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-098-TR

Overclocking is very easy, people will take you through it.

Sell the FX8120 and current board, get yourself a nice IPS screen at 1920x1080.

Pricing on Haswell stuff is unknown, but the first parts to launch will be the mainstream, I'd hope they would mirror SB/IB launch prices, which would mean you could probably get away with 300-350 for a board and CPU.
 
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