The in and outs are of what i mean, Is if one drivess past you in non high rev situations, It sounds positively dull.
New car... E92 M3 vs Cayman vs 991 vs C63 AMG
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The in and outs are of what i mean, Is if one drivess past you in non high rev situations, It sounds positively dull.
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I'm pondering how someone as immature as crinkleshoes is able to afford these cars?
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I'm inclined to agree C63 vs M3... the problem for me is I've driven them in different conditions... only ever driven an M3 on track & C63 was on the road.
I need to experience an M3 on the road, so will contact local dealer soon.
I have no interest in the new M4 - sure it's supposed to be a bit faster... but it's moved back to an I6 and will be using forced induction. Although, it looks like it's going to have a nice interior. I also read it won't be emerging til 2014?
I strongly dislike FI - sure modern implementations are a lot better than they used to be... but I still don't like it.
Part of the thing that draws me to the E92 is that wonderfully perky free-revving V8, I've yet to find an engine I like more.
The C63 might be more well rounded for the road, but I think I'll miss the excitement and connection to the road you get in the E92... the steering in the C63 is just so soft.
Another silly little thing that will get on my nerves a bit in the C63 - the gearbox... it's a bit slow and clunky. The M-DCT is so sharp and they've even designed the paddles well. Little things like that just make things that little nicer for me.
I had the opportunity to get an SLK250 at the beginning of the year for less than the price of a night out per month & ended up turning it down because of the auto box (manual wasn't available). I picked a manual 320d instead and the SLK was a nicer place to sit. The C63 box reminds me a bit of the SLK box, albeit improved, so I'm a little worried that might bug me over time.
I think I'm going to end up with an E92... but almost want to try and talk myself out of it to make sure I'm making the right decision heh.
I know I've mentioned I'm not all that fussed by looks... but I am rather keen on the shape of the new Cayman... it looks gorgeous! The front end reminds me a bit of a Ferrari + the interior looks good. I imagine the ride quality will be a bit more comfortable than the M3. The weight of the Cayman is also quite nice, I like lighter cars generally... although despite it's weight - the E92 feels surprisingly light.
I think I'm gonna write off the 991 though - it's a bit more than I want to spend on a lease unless I really love it and past experience of 996 & 997 have left me a little underwhelmed... but then the 991 is supposed to be a different animal, so I guess it's worth a test drive.
Unless I've missed something... Porsche servicing prices seem about inline with M3 pricing?
Gotcha... not so fussed about that - I'll be inside it & I know I love the noise when I'm using the rev range
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Quite simply... I present my real self on these forums... because I can.
I'm not the same person at work and have both intelligence and determination
(perhaps not so hot on the emotional intelligence side of things)Surely others wear masks in their workplace?
Also... with the way the company will be doing this, it would appear as though an E92 M3 will only impact my take home pay by ~£260/month... that's hardly a lot of money.
Quite simply... I present my real self on these forums... because I can.
I'm not the same person at work and have both intelligence and determination
Surely others wear masks in their workplace?
I wore a peado bear mask at work once...
I have nothing to add I'm far to low rent to be of any help, Nice choice for you though.
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I could... I have my choice of what I want... I just don't want an M5 even if the pricing was more reasonable. Big car + forced induction = no thanks.
I haven't seen the M5 for under £1000/month on anything but a 4 year lease and even then it's only a shade under 1k. Even the 991 is pushing a bit past what I want to spend... Cayman, M3 and C63 are the budget I'm favouring.
Ideally I only want a 2 year tie-in... albeit I would push to 3.
Why?
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I have no need for a big car, it will be a waste of space and more importantly... weight.
Although to be fair, the M3 doesn't feel as heavy as the numbers suggest.
It won't be as nimble as the M3 or Cayman and handling is important to me.
I also want a coupe rather than a 4/5 door.
Natural aspiration lends itself to much nicer engine characteristics... I don't like the delay on the pedal. I know this has improved since the older days... but it's still present.
Then there's the cost differential... it's noticeably more expensive from a 911 and I would have a 911 before an M5.
I have no desire for an M5 or similar.
I cannot seriously believe you would write off a 991 vs an M3 because the 991 doesnt have an LSD.
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It could be added for less money than I thought... but the 991 was already going into more money than I wanted to spend.
I was thinking it may be worth it if I liked it, but I have my doubts after 997 and 996 experience... I just don't like the weight distribution... I've always preferred FR layout, but enjoy MR too.
I need to test drive one to make my mind up... but I will have to include the cost of speccing a LSD in my consideration.
Going for something like this - I need to be happy with my decision... without a LSD, I will not be happy.
I know most people are ok without one & it's not like it will be constantly in use... but those time when I do want it, it's incredibly annoying to me when it's not there.
Even on something as simple as a low powered bog standard mark 1 mx5... LSD makes a noticeable difference to me.
So yes... if it came down to base model M3 vs base model 991... at exactly the same price... I would pick the M3.
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Yes - that torque kick is addictive, the main reason i kinda like it. Plus the comfort level, but then I went for comfortable power with the XKR and got bored pretty quickly.
The other thing I'd be worried about with a C63 though is rubber... it rapes the stuff without trying haha
I need to get one on the road to make my mind up - but I'm definitely leaning toward the M3 - always have been - always wanted one since my first drive. With saving for my track car, it got delayed til after the track car... then this opportunity came up
The new Cayman is taking my fancy though - I like the old/current gen and the new one seems to be shaping up nicely.
As for the LSD... it's personal preference... I can understand how it's not quite so important to most.
I don't know how bothered oh are about build quality though, a friend has a 1 year old c class (not an amg) and its rattle city inside. The one at merc world was worse, but that's not really a benchmark, they don't exactly have easy lives.
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Hopefully the electric steering won't be too bad... it seems to be mostly liked on the 991. As long as it's similar to the old but not too disconnected, I should be happy.
The M3 is more the fun factor... the Cayman just doesn't want to break grip, whereas the M3 gives a bit more slidey fun.
I wish I could have both... but that will have to wait until the other half gets a job over there. Even then not sure if I'd do that or get her something cheaper and put more towards track fun.