Duchess of Cambridge's nurse has reportedly been found dead

That's utter tosh, the Australian media watch dog was inundated with complaints prior to her suicide but many more after. Please get your facts straight.
 
Ultimately, there was none of this public outcry against the DJs about the prank call UNTIL something bad actually happened. Says it all really.

Of course, you don't have a public outcry for every drink driver. However, if they kill school children whilst doing it, naturally there would be.

Deaths changes things.
2) I could have an argument with someone at work which might lead to them going home and killing themselves. It doesn't mean I was wrong to do what I did.

If you humiliate themselves in front of all colleagues (not even the world) and trick them to do something which is likely to cost them their livelihood then I'd blame you.

This isn't someone taking constructive criticism badly.
 
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Their actions contributed to someone killing themselves. How someone else in that situation would react is irrelevant. The punishment should be on par with people in cases where they harass or bully someone who then takes their own life.

As did everyone she ever met, if some boyfriend hadn't broken up with her and called her fat, if her kid didn't tell her she wished she was dead after some argument, if her parents were nicer, if her neighbours were friendlier. If anyone had realised she was suicidal and offered help earlier.

Does any fault lay with the hospital for not giving the nurse enough support after their security procedures failed?

Seems a pretty dumb prank all round though, even without the tragic suicide. Pranking a pregnant lady that has past 12 weeks in this way can lead to all sorts of stress and complications...

Why would the hospital be at fault, its a phone call, not sustained harrassement, human beings are made of much tougher stuff than that.

If the hospital had checks in place to stop this happening and made sure their staff followed these procedures then she'd still be alive. The hospital is far from an innocent party in all of this in my opinion.

Rubbish, complete rubbish, because you're assuming she'd still be alive. Its somewhere in the region of 99.9% likely she's been considering suicide for a long time, theres a high chance she was decided on doing it and she could well have done it on the same day, at the same time, for the same reasons and the call had nothing to do with it.

Someone is depressed for years, struggling with life, considering suicide... its not an extra phone call/situation that pushes someone over the edge, its the rest of her life not changing for the better, because it was her existing life that was almost certainly making her unhappy enough to commit suicide.

Think of it like this, you hate for instance, your family, your husband, you know your husband is cheating, your job sucks, your parents abused you, you're deeply unhappy and considering suicide... do you finally do it... because of a phone call, or because your husband is still cheating on you, your job didn't change overnight, your parents still abused you, and you're still deeply unhappy.
 
Someone is depressed for years, struggling with life, considering suicide... its not an extra phone call/situation that pushes someone over the edge, its the rest of her life not changing for the better, because it was her existing life that was almost certainly making her unhappy enough to commit suicide.

Think of it like this, you hate for instance, your family, your husband, you know your husband is cheating, your job sucks, your parents abused you, you're deeply unhappy and considering suicide... do you finally do it... because of a phone call, or because your husband is still cheating on you, your job didn't change overnight, your parents still abused you, and you're still deeply unhappy.

Am I reading that right...you think she commited suicide coincidentally at the same time of this incident of which you feel has nothing to do with it? I must be reading that wrong.
 
If you punch someone and they die it is no defence to say it wasn't a hard punch and with anyone else it wouldn't have killed them. Everyone is different. The djs chose to pull the stunt. As a result a person has committed suicide. They have to face the consequences of that. Their careers are over that's is for sure. The next question is should they face further charges.
 
-Nobody but the Nurse is responsible for her actions.
-You can't go through life worrying if your actions might lead to someone killing themselves.

good post.

Obviously, it is very sad what has happened to the nurse. When i play a prank, i dont say to myself, "hold on, is he/she gonna top herself".

The nurse is responsible for her actions, and it is a sad thing to happen but its nobodys fault at all apart from hers. As somebody posted above earlier, the whole thing has escalated into a massive thing because its to do with royalty. If this was another run of the mill story then nobody would be pointing blame at pranksters in fact i would wager that the media would be saying she over-reacted etc etc........... But obviously once royalty is involved its always going to be the other persons fault (in this case two).
 
Cant agree with you there, pranks on medical staff are an absolute no no, just let them do their job. It's stressful enough.
 
Cant agree with you there, pranks on medical staff are an absolute no no, just let them do their job. It's stressful enough.

if i prank my local hospital now regarding information they would:

A) Hang up and not top themself
B) Report me to the police and not top themself
 
That's utter tosh, the Australian media watch dog was inundated with complaints prior to her suicide but many more after. Please get your facts straight.

Hmm how many you say? It's a global news story with a hint of controversy, of course there will be some complaints. But nothing on the scale of what we have now.

The point is before the death, it was just another news story. Even Prince Charles was having a laugh about it. Since the death though, there had been a huge shift in how the DJs actions are being perceived.
 
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Cant agree with you there, pranks on medical staff are an absolute no no, just let them do their job. It's stressful enough.

Thats irrelevant, she answered a call and transferred it. Thats not enough to make you kill yourself all by itself.

There was no suggestion that she would lose her job but even if she was thats not enough to make you kill yourself in of itself.

This girl obviously had a lot of issues going on in the background and that is tragic, but the trigger for those issues could have been a customer complaint, a poor SDA, an argument with a colleague or any number of things. It wouldn't mean that the complaint wasn't valid, her SDA wasn't poor or the argument with her colleague wasn't justified. You cannot go through life assuming that every interaction you have with a person is their tipping point.

In the course of my work i take some tough phone calls and attend some tough meetings. If i was clinically depressed its very possible one of them would be the thing that pushed me over the edge but that doesn't make the other person responsible.

This was a typical radio joke that in normal circumstances would have resulted in a hospital hanging up after a matter of seconds. That it went so far was shocking, not least to the DJs playing the joke in the first place. The joke was the joke, not cutting edge or brilliant but it stands on its own two feet as a joke, what happened later cannot be legislated for.
 
Oh for the love of... honestly you people are hilarious. Debating over the semantics of this is laughable. A pair of DJs made, what was to all expectations, a harmless prank call. A nutjob topped herself (tragic but a stupid overreaction that left two kids without a mother and a husband without a wife). A nurse divulged private information to someone that they thought was the queen. There isn't anything else to discuss. It's just a sad unraveling of unforeseeable outcomes to a tasteless joke.

Everyone will have forgotten about this in 2-3 days except for the family that has been left without their mother/wife because of some idiotic honor belief? All this posturing and public outrage is just garbage bred out of people with too much time on their hands and not enough intelligence to contextualize the information.
 
Oh for the love of... honestly you people are hilarious. Debating over the semantics of this is laughable. A pair of DJs made, what was to all expectations, a harmless prank call. A nutjob topped herself (tragic but a stupid overreaction that left two kids without a mother and a husband without a wife). A nurse divulged private information to someone that they thought was the queen. There isn't anything else to discuss. It's just a sad unraveling of unforeseeable outcomes to a tasteless joke.

Everyone will have forgotten about this in 2-3 days except for the family that has been left without their mother/wife because of some idiotic honor belief? All this posturing and public outrage is just garbage bred out of people with too much time on their hands and not enough intelligence to contextualize the information.

agreed, but harsh to call her a nutjob.

Everyone needs to get out of the royals ass.
 
agreed, but harsh to call her a nutjob.

Everyone needs to get out of the royals ass.

I can't think of any other way of describing someone that feels that taking their own life because they passed a phone call through and is so selfish that they can't consider the well being of their family above themselves.
 
Oh for the love of... honestly you people are hilarious. Debating over the semantics of this is laughable. A pair of DJs made, what was to all expectations, a harmless prank call. A nutjob topped herself (tragic but a stupid overreaction that left two kids without a mother and a husband without a wife). A nurse divulged private information to someone that they thought was the queen. There isn't anything else to discuss. It's just a sad unraveling of unforeseeable outcomes to a tasteless joke.

Everyone will have forgotten about this in 2-3 days except for the family that has been left without their mother/wife because of some idiotic honor belief? All this posturing and public outrage is just garbage bred out of people with too much time on their hands and not enough intelligence to contextualize the information.

I think that is very insensitive. I have more than enough intelligence to contextualise having been in her position many times regarding the media and patients information. The media are cheeky bar stewards and will try anything.

She was passed the call from the over night switch board operator wasn't she?
 
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I can't think of any other way of describing someone that feels that taking their own life because they passed a phone call through and is so selfish that they can't consider the well being of their family above themselves.

Remind me again of your professional qualifications?
 
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