Duchess of Cambridge's nurse has reportedly been found dead

thats what they claim but i think the hospital say nobody rang them.
still if they couldn't get permission they shouldn't have run it - it would hardly of been a great loss to them.

Agreed... But in the scheme of things, one hardly equates 100 seconds of dire impressions, fake dog barks, and no "confidential information" as anything particularly risky? I don't think any harm was intended and clearly none for foreseen...
 
exactly, they made a prank call and it just so happened to be to someone very sensitive - if they did their job and actually asked for permission before airing it then maybe they would have found out that it could badly affect someone and that its not worth airing.
its a tragic situation but it could have been avoided and that makes them slightly culpable, not 100%, but some.

If either her or the person she passed the call on to did their job in making sure information was only given to those who needed it (Family/close friends) then she'd also still be alive. I'm not saying the DJs were faultless but they should never have been able to so easily be given that information.
 
Have you listened to it? Give us the honest answer?

If you had, you'd know they weren't attempting, and didn't get, any confidential information.

Whether or not they got information is irrelevant, impersonating somebody to gain confidential information is still an offence.

And if they weren't attempting, just what were they doing? That's what I don't get.
 
Agreed... But in the scheme of things, one hardly equates 100 seconds of dire impressions, fake dog barks, and no "confidential information" as anything particularly risky? I don't think any harm was intended and clearly none for foreseen...

yeah i see what youre saying - its a tragic situation all round and i hope some lessons are learned.
 
Whether or not they got information is irrelevant, impersonating somebody to gain confidential information is still an offence.

And if they weren't attempting, just what were they doing? That's what I don't get.

So I'll assume then you haven't listened to it? :rolleyes:

They were hardly really trying! The best impressions were the corgis! And while not a belly laugh, I found it slightly comical (ignoring the outcome of course), and there's really no attempt at gaining "confidential information"...
 
It is however just another tragic example of the ever growing attitude of irresponsibility and assumption of being absolved from any effect of your actions. You see the exact same attitude all around you on a daily basis.
Agree, if you don't have to look someone in the eye, everything is funny.
I don't think the actual prank was nasty, but given she was only at twelve weeks then this sort of intrusion is tacky.

Something that the Daily Mail doesn't get it appears, with their gushing 12 page spread on a foetus that could conceivably abort, we can't hold the DJ's wholly responsible unless we include in part the attention the tabloids bring to bear.

I noted one of the DJ's first questions was 'was she a Mother', I have to give them credit for some actual empathy there.
 
So I'll assume then you haven't listened to it? :rolleyes:

They were hardly really trying! The best impressions were the corgis! And while not a belly laugh, I found it slightly comical (ignoring the outcome of course), and there's really no attempt at gaining "confidential information"...

Yes, I have listened to it.

I guess that's just a difference of opinion. Whilst I don't think that what they did was necessarily heinous or intended to do anything wrong, you have to question the intellect of anybody who phones up that hospital pretending to be the Queen and Prince Philip. Or that of anybody who actually found it even remotely entertaining, for that matter.
 
Yay. Reality, facts and perspective. Three things consistently missing from OcUK.

I thought this was resolved pages back.

- DJs made tasteless call
- Emotionally/mentally unstable woman took call, transferred to ward
- Ward nurse opened her mouth when she shouldn't have
- DJs hung up.
- Days pass in which we have no idea what went on with emotionally/mentally unstable woman, what contact she had with press, did her hospital give her grief, did her hubby threaten to leave her, was the bank foreclosing on her house, was there something else going on that we're entirely unaware of but doesn't fit into the general witch hunt and situational ignorance pervasive here.
- Emotionally unstable woman found dead.
- General public, media, social media and OcUK pitch fork bearers unleash their fearsome 'totally informed', 100% justified and oh so empathetic wrath on the first target offered up by the fore mentioned media.
- OcUK WINS! Yay!

*le sigh*
 
Yes, I have listened to it.

I guess that's just a difference of opinion. Whilst I don't think that what they did was necessarily heinous or intended to do anything wrong, you have to question the intellect of anybody who phones up that hospital pretending to be the Queen and Prince Philip. Or that of anybody who actually found it even remotely entertaining, for that matter.

Ahh, the old, my humour is superior to yours argument, followed by a wonderful I must therefore be more intellectual than you insult, too.


Ignoring this for a second though, you kept stating they gained (or attempted to gain) confidential information. What was this confidential information?
 
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You can't be serious...

Enough..I'm sick of this canned outpouring of emotion that it seems that people are obliged to have with these kinds of things happen. She's left two children without an mother, and for what reason? She was embarrassed? So yes, if she was in her right mind I think her actions were about as selfish as they could be because she certainly wasn't thinking about anyone other than herself, and doesn't have to deal with the fallout.
 
I honestly cannot believe the direct cause of the suicide is the radio call. I am sure we will never hear it said but I can't imagine the hospital not giving her some kind of talking to when the royal family is involved. The Queen doesn't just pick up the phone and dial a number expecting people to believe she is the Queen, the hospital would have known this and I highly suspect they made this point to the nurse. She was likely mentally unstable (most people have to be to even contemplate suicide let alone go through with it).

I feel sorry for the radio hosts. As they have said many, many, many hoax phone calls are done by radio stations all over the world and it was never intended to be anything more than an obvious joke. Regardless of the true cause they will always think they drove a woman to kill herself.

Of course mainly speculation but just find the hospital did nothing in the way of disciplinig her line hard to believe.
 
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Ahh, the old, my humour is superior to yours argument, followed by a wonderful I must therefore be more intellectual than you insult, too.


Ignoring this for a second though, you kept stating they gained (or attempted to gain) confidential information. What was this confidential information?

Too obvious? :D

On a serious note, it really wasn't funny in the slightest. In fact, it just seemed to be a bit too much like a cover-up for the fact that their broadcast content is utterly dire.

I honestly didn't find it funny. Heck, check my post history - I'm a staunch republican, I can't stand the royal family! But I just cannot understand what reason they had to phone the hospital impersonating the grandparents of the parents-to-be. The whole escapade just seemed like really silly idea for nothing more than attention whoring - and guess what? Mission accomplished. I hope they can live with themselves for it.

The real sadness imho is that the publicity of these kids' conception will forever be linked to the death of this woman. That's a bit rough...
 
It's a terrible situation and it's true the DJ's couldn't have expected such an outcome. Still, the call was stupid and they are largely to blame. Watching their interview they seem intent on passing the buck which I find disappointing.

I just watched the interview and the guy was definitley in self-preservation mode - deflecting everything. The girl seemed more sincere and at times almost selfless.

They shouldn't be put on pedestals anyway. I'm not sure what purpose the video was meant to serve. I found it inappropriate from all perspectives. Just a scoop for the network I guess.

I agree with all those who hold the media accountable to more extent than those poor DJs.
 
I will say it over and over and over again, hospital responsible for letting out information with proper checks, radio DJs playing prank calls trying to gain access in to private matters using royal voices for god sake. Then have it pre recorded and aired.

Would It be a good idea to phone the Whitehouse pretending to be mrs obama to gain info on Barack? No

Would you use someone's identity to gain information, no

Don't even get me started on the press in the country, it's a disgrace
 
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I just read maddox's opinion on this subject as he updated his site for once and it reminded me of this thread. I won't link to the article as it contains swearies but i'll leave his image here..

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While my stance on the DJ's haven't changed, they were wrong to what they did and are party responsible for this I can't help but say the Media have had a huge play in this too.

The British gutter press once again have a lot to answer for.

No they're not, and continuing to insist that they are doesn't make it so.
 
No they're not, and continuing to insist that they are doesn't make it so.

What so the DJs have no involvement at all? Or am I reading this wrong?

It's called common sence

Prank call a Chinese takeaway but not a hospital pretending to be a royal, they keep on going on about "we didn't expect to be put through" why did they continue to play along asking for information when they clearly knew they shouldn't be doing it
 
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