Over reacting? (Work related)

Aedus

Aedus

Aedus

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Tiny bit of a story.

I started work doing a pretty standard job, customer service stuff. Really badly paid, pretty much bare minimum. I've been doing it for months, and eventually the work got more and more dead due to the winter season, 2 months ago a new department was made and asked me if I wouldn't mind doing some of their work for the time being. I agreed but stated I want to stay sitting where I am now, because I like the people who I work with, and I wouldn't actually be working for this new department.

Fast forward to today they've now turned around, and stated that I HAVE to move, to sit with the rest of the team. I have a major problem with this because #1 I only agreed to do it IF I could stay where I am now and #2 This other department are on a higher wage, but I'm still stuck on the lower wage because I'm only on "loan" to this other department. The job is 50x more stressful, but I do it because it's something to do, and it allowed me to stay with my work friends.

I don't want to take this kind of ****, it boils my blood. So I'm thinking of either:
  1. Saying I want to go back onto what I was on before, which is less stressful
  2. Refuse to move at all and keep doing what Im doing
  3. Demanding a higher pay to be in-line with what everyone else in the department is on.

My managers boss has made it perfectly clear they intend me to stay on this for the foreseeable future however I never made an issue about the pay because I was happy to work as long as I could sit with my work friends, now I don't even get that and feel like I'm being taken for a complete ride. I'm thinking about handing in my notice if they don't give me 1 of those 3 options. I cannot stand being taken for a ride, especially when I've made so much effort and done so much for this new department to help them out. They even gave me more work relating to some brand "app", and spreadsheets for the board of directors, and they just don't seem to give a **** and are happy to use my good will and keep me on this **** poor pay as long as they can. I seem to do 10x more than anyone else, and get paid peanuts, this just feels like the last straw. I was completely happy until this.
 
Are you sure you won't like the people in the new department?

Angle for option 3, with option 1 as a fall-back.
Say that if you are being moved into the new department then you expect to be treated as if you work there, including a pay rise to match your colleagues.
 
Thanks, pay rise is the best option. I don't think I'll bother going to just my manager, I'll go to her boss and bring it up with him instead. I've been doing work for him, so may be able to talk to him a bit easier.
 
gillywibble said:
If you move, it may spur your career onward as well as your pay. What have you got to lose?
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I'm still on a **** pay, and it's clear they have no intentions of increasing it. I've been doing more work than anyone else in that office, yet I'm on a worse pay, all i asked in return was to be allowed to sit with my friends, now they're trying to take that from me, with 0 benefit.
 
Firstly, forget the whole 'who am I sitting next to' issue. That makes it sound like you're at school and if you bring that up they will treat you as such.

The real issue is whether or not they are really having you 'on loan' in the other department or whether they actually intend to keep you there.

Go to your boss and find out if it's going to be a long-term thing, or only a couple of months etc. If he doesn't know, or gives you some wishy-washy reply then yes, maybe they are trying it on. In that case I'd just say that I'm happy to move to the new department but if it lasts longer than 3 months then I'd expect a pay review to bring me in line with the new role.
 
Scam said:
Firstly, forget the whole 'who am I sitting next to' issue. That makes it sound like you're at school and if you bring that up they will treat you as such.

The real issue is whether or not they are really having you 'on loan' in the other department or whether they actually intend to keep you there.

Go to your boss and find out if it's going to be a long-term thing, or only a couple of months etc. If he doesn't know, or gives you some wishy-washy reply then yes, maybe they are trying it on. In that case I'd just say that I'm happy to move to the new department but if it lasts longer than 3 months then I'd expect a pay review to bring me in line with the new role.
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I know they intend for me to stay in this new role, 1 of my other managers let it slip. So I'm going to head for the pay rise.
 
Take option 3 - pay rise

Sounds a bit of a mickey mouse company / manager tbh

They either avoided or couldn't be bothered to explain your new role in terms of timescale, changes in pay or conditions and left it vague so they can later make changes and claim it wasn't written in stone.

If they cannot afford a 2-3k pay rise then they are definitely a mickey mouse company.
 
ask to be paid the same as the other people doing that role, ooh and man up, they are mugging you off if they are asking you to cover a job for someone who is higher paid, they should at least temporarily increase you pay for the period you are doing the job
 
what do you do?

and who or what kind of cmpany do you work for? large, small? private?

without this info you are limited in good quality replys,

in general, speak to your line manager, ltell them you are upset with the current situation,

if still not satisfied with the answer, go above his/her head, following company procedure all the way.
 
Yeah demand you are paid fairly for the work you do, gf ended up leaving her last job because she took the sucker approach to a point where she was just told she is covering all of christmas and new year because everyone else wanted time off.

Stand firm now on the money for the work you are doing now otherwise you will be taken for a merry ride.
 
I think you only have to discuss with your boss what you have said here and reach an agreement.

"This was only supposed to be a temporary arrangement. I'm happy to do the work you want me to do at a new desk but it needs to be on similar salary to others doing that work or I'd rather stay where I am thankyouverymuch and do my old job."

"well that seems entirely reasonable, what a thoroughly professional and positive approach you have taken. Have you thought about a job in management?"
 
Aedus said:
Thanks, pay rise is the best option. I don't think I'll bother going to just my manager, I'll go to her boss and bring it up with him instead. I've been doing work for him, so may be able to talk to him a bit easier.
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Be careful missing your direct boss out of the equation.

Some bosses (like me :p) get totally irritated if you go above their head as it looks as if a) they cannot manage their team properly and b) there must be problems for people to jump higher up the chain. If you then end up back under your boss could be awkward! :)
 
Agreed, give your own boss a chance to work something out.,if you go straight above his head then his boss may think he's not up to it or he hasn't done anything.

I would either agree it as a temporary measure with a fixed term, or, if they plan on keeping you and if your reviews and work has been good tell them you expect the same wages that others in that department get.
 
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