London Met Police put more effort into fighting settlement with rape victim than they did prosecutin
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seems like the people in the met make a catalogue of mistakes time and time again
They are the biggest force by far in the UK. They are much more likely to have these issues just through the laws of statistics.
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I'm not saying he didn't.
For the billionth time, I'm questioning the disparity between the two payments.
What happened with the MET wouldn't change the fact she was raped. What happened with the Govt. caused what happened to the Lybian chap to happen. That's the biggest difference in my opinion.
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On the other hand, the Libyan guy at least got to see his tormentor killed whereas the rape victim has to carry on living knowing her attacker is alive, well and free.
So a 15 year old gets raped and goes to the police for help, the police spend the next x amount of years fighting with the rape victim whilst the rapist walks off laughing in her face.
Wtf is wrong with some of these police officers ?
Wtf is wrong with some of these police officers ?
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It was nothing to do with the then officers, the decision to fight the civil suit was made by lawyers, the met's lawyers, then they gave up and settled.
The team has since been completely modified and changed, and the current Saphire team is aparently well trained and not overworked unlike the caseload of the officer at the original time.
They did prosecute the alleged offender, but the case fell apart for a number of reasons, including loss of evidence and documentation.
The team has since been completely modified and changed, and the current Saphire team is aparently well trained and not overworked unlike the caseload of the officer at the original time.
They did prosecute the alleged offender, but the case fell apart for a number of reasons, including loss of evidence and documentation.
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Sending someone to Libya who then gets tortured is THEIR fault, someone getting raped is NOT their fault, screwing up the case was their fault, so you're comparing, screwing up a case, with no physical harm to the woman in question, to someone who ended up being tortured.... these aren't even close to comparable.
But how it responds to these instances is indicative of the force as a whole. The media were briefed that Jean Charles de Menezes had jumped the barriers and that crowds pelted the cops trying to resuscitate Ian Tomlinson. When they killed a man for sounding Irish and holding a piece of wood, all of the firearms officers threatened to turn in their guns if anyone was held to account.
Why has who ever controls the lawyers not been dismissed for his or her criminally poor judgement?
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The head of the team has been replaced, and the team reorganised.
As for the lawyers I have no idea.
If they are anything like the civil service then such actions would be basically impossible, as they police themselves.
People get raped in third world countries and slum areas all the time and get no compensation. Ever.
Not being funny I can't imagine how being raped must feel but no amount of money will ever wipe the slate clean, you would always have the memories. Knowing justice is served (by offender going to prison) is at least some justification of his actions. Money is irrelevant tbh.
The inspector in charge probably got a massive pay rise and a desk job or a massive lump sum and early retirement.
Sad but true.
Exactly MrMoonX, people should be sacked for such negligence, not rearanged or allowed to retire with their profile unscathed. There needs to be some acountability for peoples actions bought in.
For the same reason im active in LBGT rights and Drug legalisation, its an attempt to combat the things wrong with society, part of that is getting other peoples opinions on things. 801 people have viewed this thread, a small section have commented and there doesn't seem to be any rapist apologism which is pleasent.
I was half expecting a few replies of "she shouldn't of been raped if she didn't want to get raped" or "what was she wearing when she was raped and did she deserve being raped?"
Quite right that she won her case. As for the decision to fight the matter - no doubt taken by a Lawyer/Barrister - they tend to be rather dispassionate about cases. Their judgements aren't 'criminal', they're morally reprehensible sometimes, but they're doing their job - they're paid to fight a court case. I certainly agree that at some point someone should have stood up and said "what they hell are we doing here?" and settled.
I find this quote quite telling, from the victims Solicitor
""I think there are a lot of very good, very dedicated officers out there and in this case there were a few officers who were trying really hard and they were being stopped from doing proper investigations because the resources were being taken out of their department by people higher up than them.
"What we actually hope that police officers will be able to say I need these resources to investigate this rape and if they are getting refusals from people above them they can point to this case and say we could be liable."
About sums it up really - people on the ground working as best as they can, without proper training, without the backup of higher ups - a familiar story in all jobs in the UK nowadays.
I find this quote quite telling, from the victims Solicitor
""I think there are a lot of very good, very dedicated officers out there and in this case there were a few officers who were trying really hard and they were being stopped from doing proper investigations because the resources were being taken out of their department by people higher up than them.
"What we actually hope that police officers will be able to say I need these resources to investigate this rape and if they are getting refusals from people above them they can point to this case and say we could be liable."
About sums it up really - people on the ground working as best as they can, without proper training, without the backup of higher ups - a familiar story in all jobs in the UK nowadays.
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Oh lawd, not this again. Your perspective isn't balanced so you shouldn't be attempting to discuss stuff like this.