MILLIONAIRE Tory Cabinet minister refers to police as " plebs " - Police fabricate evidence

When this happened, they said Mitchell showed how out of touch the tories are. There was no room for the fact it could have been one man who was unrepresentative of his party as a whole.

But no doubt, it's looking to be a stitch up this will be passed off as an "isolated incident" from one or two "bad apples".

I've never trusted police accounts after having one lie in court against me. It annoys me that their evidence and statements are always given higher credence by both judges and the public.


*Watching C4+1 now.
 
After watching the Chanel 4 expose I must say it isn't look good for the police right now.

The man who posed as the member of the public is seemingly 'a worried man' and so he should be. I did think at the time there seemed to be a lot of politicising of the events from the police (who'd just been handed cuts to their budget). I bet those coppers who wore those "PC Pleb" jumpers are feeling a bit silly at the moment.
 
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It is looking murkier that's for sure although I don't think the relevations are over somehow.

If these fresh allegations come to pass as being true then Whitehall & Westminster's reaction to this could be fascinating and devastating at the same time.
 
estebanrey said:
After watching the Chanel 4 expose I must say it isn't look good for the police right now.

The man who posed as the member of the public is seemingly 'a worried man' and so he should be. I did think at the time there seemed to be a lot of politicising of the events from the police (who'd just been handed cuts to their budget). I bet those coppers who wore those "PC Pleb" jumpers are feeling a bit silly at the moment.
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For a select minority of the police force, not the police.

This is exactly my concern with the political fallout that is going to start appearing on the horizon; beyond ministerial resignation that is. It is important to differentiate between those who have potentially commited crime, against all moral law abiding officers.
 
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For a select minority of the police force, not the police.
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I wondered how long it would take....

estebanrey said:
When this happened, they said Mitchell showed how out of touch the tories are. There was no room for the fact it could have been one man who was unrepresentative of his party as a whole.

But no doubt, it's looking to be a stitch up this will be passed off as an "isolated incident" from one or two "bad apples".
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...shame the same consideration wasn't given to the Conservative Party at the time. According to papers like the Guardian Mitchell's supposed outburst was a sign of the Tories showing their 'true colours'.
 
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FThis is exactly my concern with the political fallout that is going to start appearing on the horizon; beyond ministerial resignation that is. It is important to differentiate between those who have potentially commited crime, against all moral law abiding officers.
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What like the Tory's were extended that same courtesy? Give some people and inch and they'll go a mile on Tory bashing. Out of touch indeed.
 
lefty police officer(s) in the diplomatic protection group ?

allegedly falsifying a log book and successfully removing a member of the cabinet - someone needs to sort out their vetting process
 
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Amazing really, I don't have a high opinion of our police force but not even I would have thought they'd stoop this low. Neither am I a fan of Andrew Mitchell or the other Tories, but the allegations against the police are really quite extraordinary. I thought the police got off very lightly in Levenson, perhaps it's time for another wide ranging inquiry, this time examining the conduct and competency of our police forces.
 
estebanrey said:
I wondered how long it would take....

...shame the same consideration wasn't given to the Conservative Party at the time. According to papers like the Guardian Mitchell's supposed outburst was a sign of the Tories showing their 'true colours'.
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Political parties take hits, rightly or wrongly, all the time.

That is not an excuse, but neither would the actions of a minority justify kneejerk reaction that hinders or effectively punishes the majority.

This doesn't look good, especially considering the leveson/phonehacking business too, but while political play has been a long characterstic the entirety of service should not be subjected to victimisation.

In saying that this really is conjecture until we get an outcome to this.
 
Biohazard said:
Political parties take hits, rightly or wrongly, all the time.

That is not an excuse, but neither would the actions of a minority justify kneejerk reaction that hinders or effectively punishes the majority.

This doesn't look good, especially considering the leveson/phonehacking business too, but while political play has been a long characterstic the entirety of service should not be subjected to victimisation.

In saying that this really is conjecture until we get an outcome to this. Oh, and the joy of another enquiry from this Government!
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As someone who has has seen a police officer lie in court against me, accept my apologies for not sharing your optimistic views on the duty bound police officer.

I've come to realise they are humans, and treat their jobs like we all do. If you can lie or cheat to make yourself look better or cover up a mistake they will do it without consideration.
 
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