Great Ormond Street hospital presents stolen
- Thread starter JoeF1
- Start date
I Concur
Man of Honour
- Joined
- 29 May 2004
- Posts
- 4,488
- Location
- Tall building nearby
.
You are neither a gentleman nor a scholar; what on earth are you thinking?.
At least there's some icing on the cake
Up most respect for Alan Sugar for sorting out the replacements.
Maybe we should be like Saudi, remove something from one and get a hand removed from yourself. Would definitely make the idiots at least think twice before stealing if they actually got a harsh punishment for it!
Maybe we should be like Saudi, remove something from one and get a hand removed from yourself. Would definitely make the idiots at least think twice before stealing if they actually got a harsh punishment for it!
Man of Honour
- Joined
- 29 May 2004
- Posts
- 4,488
- Location
- Tall building nearby
Sweet gesture.
They should coat whoever did this in sugar and sit them on an ants nest.
Soldato
- Joined
- 8 Mar 2007
- Posts
- 10,938
Congrats on completely misunderstanding it (like a few others even though I clearly stated I was not defending the action in the first sentence
).I am NOT defending the thief is any way shape or form. I am trying to play amateur criminal psychologist, get into their heads and come up with how someone could convince themselves that stealing those toys could in anyway be justified.
People are asking "how could anyone do this", I provide a possible thought process as an answer and get called 'ridiculous' as if that was MY personal view of the incident or what I would have done.....
Well I'm sorry I tried to answer the "why?" question..... Let me just write them off as 'evil scum' and get my pitchfork so I can join the rest of you eh?
Last edited:
The thief knew that the presents would be replaced fairly quickly by the loose change in some millionaire's pocket, so the guilt behind stealing from children is removed (they still get presents, the thief still gets the money (either because he/she needs the money or they're greedy, we don't know why)) and in the end nobody really loses.
To provide an example, fictious as it may be, to help with comprehension:
In Firefly, the crew of Serenity steal medical supplies from a large hospital on the core worlds - they know that being such an important facility, the medicines will be replaced almost immediately, while they can sell the medicine to survive as well as strike deals with the border planets who are in need of medicines. In the end, everybody profits, except for the government who are sitting on top of mountains of money anyway.
Last edited:
Man of Honour
- Joined
- 29 May 2004
- Posts
- 4,488
- Location
- Tall building nearby
That they would be replaced is no defence; it's the principle; it could have been one gift worth pocket change but stolen from a child, a seriously ill child the value is of no consequence, the principle is everything, there is no excuse.
Well in fairness stuff gets nicked from GOSH all the time from the mums handbags, staff clothes, laptops, etc. Some people don't give a stuff - lack of empathy etc. I really doubt they justify it in their mind with some pattern of though like that tbh therewise they wouldn't nick all the other stuff that they do quite frequently. Scumbags steal from hospitals because they care more about their own gains than other peoples suffering - they steal from your house or your car whether it will seriously impinge on you or not. We are not dealing with some Robin Hood here who ethically weighs the effect of their larceny we are just dealing with scum that doesn't seemingly give a flying youknowwhat about other people they don't know or maybe do in some cases.
Last edited:
Soldato
- Joined
- 8 Mar 2007
- Posts
- 10,938
Well explained.
I wasn't trying to justify the thefts like many have jumped on me as if I was, I was trying to point out how the thief may justify it to themselves which you've shown above.
Soldato
- Joined
- 8 Mar 2007
- Posts
- 10,938
No one is making excuses. Explaining why something may have happened isn't excusing it happening.
If I said a man killed his wife because she had an affair, I'm not excusing the murder, just explaining the motive.
I admit I'm not really clued up about how twitter works etc, But hasn't he just plugged his curved nail file he backed in a post he knows will be posted thousands of times?
Still, very nice of him, although it seems like lots of people are already replacing the presents from the article.
Absolutely. You're not justifying the theft, but rather seeking a logical explanation to it and personal justification to the thief.
I'm not justifying the thief's actions, I'm simply trying to explain how the thief may have justified to themselves. If we were to bring in the possibility that the thief also has ill children, and seeks to provide care to them - they can't afford it, see that the presents will be replaced meaning the children will get the presents all the same (they would have no knowledge of the replacement), and then see that as justification to them.
If you stand on emotional bias, then you'll not see beyond outrage over ill children being stolen from, rather than the much deeper cause and circumstance.
Indeed, it's not the first time somebody has jumped on a sensitive issue in order to claim recognition, publicity or good fame - as well as do something positive for that issue.
Evil heartless ********! They should be found and strung up for birds to peck to death!
Indeed. Torture and death is clearly an apt punishment for stealing.
Maybe downloading songs off the internet should be punishable by having your ears stuffed with fireworks?
What a ****