Do you undertake middle lane morons!
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I make smooth progress and if that means I undertake a few sponge bobs on the way then I gave up worrying about it a few years back. I don't dive in and out, I make 'pace' using stealth
You both lack imagination. Personally I think that`s the basic cause of so much bad driving and consequently so many accidents. Those at the wheel have so little imagination they`re brains are actually incapable of conceiving what could possibly go wrong.
Take it from me, I`ve been driving 25 years and overtaking on the inside is dangerous, and remember if you have an accident the chances are you`ll be found to be liable.
I've been driving (and riding bikes) for a similar length of time, and despite not being very imaginative I can assess the risks of a situation based on it's merits.
I approach MLMs in the inside lane, and then pull out behind them (at a sensible distance). If the MLM has any awareness of activity outside of their car, they will see this and many times people hastily pull back into the correct lane. If they don't even glance in their mirror, you can be pretty certain that they are daydreaming (perhaps they have very active imaginations...), and after giving them a reasonable chance to move, you can most always move back and get past them before they are even aware of you. Obviously you need to get past quickly and ensure there is enough room to escape if they do pull in.
If they look in their mirror, see you and remain put then you have a more risky situation, they then fall into the "Cretin" classification, insecure idiots enjoying the feel of 'power' as they hold someone up, and will no doubt block you if you attempt a pass on the left. You simply need some patience; wait long enough and other cars will pass on the inside and upset them enough that they will pull over.
Personally I think the main cause of bad driving is nothing do with imagination, but primarily because people don't give a crap about their own skills or how their selfish behavior affects other people. There would be no need to pas on the left if people followed the rules of the road.
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I do it purely to see the look on the faces of people like you. Ideally if i can borrow an Audi then I will as I know that annoys people who are hard of understanding even more due to their "all them Audi drivers" mind set...
I've been driving 28 years and I am more than happy to compare my driving record with yours old boy. Also, feel free to sit in my passenger seat anytime you want as long as I can sit in yours and pass comment. In my 28 years I have averaged circa 25K miles a year and know therefore that you can't put people in nice little boxes to fit your argument, such as assuming because someone drives a certain car they are a certain type.
There is a huge amount of bad driving in this country, experience has shown me that those who are the biggest critics are often oblivious to their own shortcomings as a driver, assuming because they know the rules they are therefore a good driver, which is, to put it bluntly, crap.
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I agree with the idea of keeping left at most times, except where it is not practical, e.g the 10 second rule mentioned before, however this rule would maybe apply differently to different vehicles.
Cars and other speedy vehicles should have no problems doing this, but slower moving traffic like underpowered cars, vans, trucks, cannot do this to the same extent, mostly due to other people who wont then let you out of the left lane and force you into the back of a lorry or similar down to 50mph, which then takes the slow moving vehicles 20 seconds to reach 70 again rather than 2-3 seconds for a normal car, making it doubly difficult to pull back into the middle lane once you have pulled left.
This leads to driver of slower moving vehicles looking ahead / reading the road for a lot more than 10 seconds and being hesitant to pull left if they can foresee being stuck in the left lane.
Pulling left is similar to holding a door open for people, they take the p and leave you standing there while 100 people walk through the door, rather than just be grateful you pulled left and let you out again when needed.
Cars and other speedy vehicles should have no problems doing this, but slower moving traffic like underpowered cars, vans, trucks, cannot do this to the same extent, mostly due to other people who wont then let you out of the left lane and force you into the back of a lorry or similar down to 50mph, which then takes the slow moving vehicles 20 seconds to reach 70 again rather than 2-3 seconds for a normal car, making it doubly difficult to pull back into the middle lane once you have pulled left.
This leads to driver of slower moving vehicles looking ahead / reading the road for a lot more than 10 seconds and being hesitant to pull left if they can foresee being stuck in the left lane.
Pulling left is similar to holding a door open for people, they take the p and leave you standing there while 100 people walk through the door, rather than just be grateful you pulled left and let you out again when needed.
Does that include you then?
I am perfection personified, I never make a misteak.
I hog the middle lane, it's easier for me instead of going into Lane 1, be blocked in, forced to brake behind the lorry, then pull out, speed up. etc.
Just hog the middle lane, it's the easiest way to drive
Learn to read the road so you make the manoeuvres in advance of the problem.
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Learn to read the road so you make the manoeuvres in advance of the problem.
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Yeah I should.
Great thread !
I undertake. I flash them if I'm in the middle lane, but if I drive up one mile in the slow lane to them, I just pass...
But, I agree that sometime being 'nice' and drive in the left lane lead you to have a ****** stick in your dead spot in the mirror for ages while you are reaching a lorry. These guys I call "Accordion ******s" as they'll stick to the middle lane at 50 if they are behind someone at 50, but will start doing 75-80+ and end up in your dead spot if they get clear road.
In europe (in france at least) middle lane hogging is illegal. You get stopped and fined for it. Likewise not signaling, out AND in of a lane.
I undertake. I flash them if I'm in the middle lane, but if I drive up one mile in the slow lane to them, I just pass...
But, I agree that sometime being 'nice' and drive in the left lane lead you to have a ****** stick in your dead spot in the mirror for ages while you are reaching a lorry. These guys I call "Accordion ******s" as they'll stick to the middle lane at 50 if they are behind someone at 50, but will start doing 75-80+ and end up in your dead spot if they get clear road.
In europe (in france at least) middle lane hogging is illegal. You get stopped and fined for it. Likewise not signaling, out AND in of a lane.
We went for a weekend and so absolutely no dodgy driving or lane issues at all, France was the best but Belgium? not a problem at all. The only time traffic seemed to stop was on a red light, all other times everything flowed efficiently. I think the locals were more puzzled at the orange ST driving on the wrong side of the road a couple of times
Where did you go? The driving in and around Brussels is appalling, especially during the week.We went for a weekend and so absolutely no dodgy driving or lane issues at all, France was the best but Belgium? not a problem at all. The only time traffic seemed to stop was on a red light, all other times everything flowed efficiently. I think the locals were more puzzled at the orange ST driving on the wrong side of the road a couple of times
Sundays is mainly weekend drivers who dawdle and generally get in the way.