People that can't hold their drink

Alcohol tends to be a catalyst for carnage but I assure you that even without alcohol, chaos may lurk around every single corner.

Be safe.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Two things. The consequences are very serious, many of which aren't necessarily obvious. Prof Nutt's infamous report into drugs harm is a good example of how bad it can be.

Secondly, although a minority, it's a very significant minority which seems to be growing.
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I was specifically referring to the 'having to go to hospital' drunk people. They are a pain and a cost, and occassionally one might suffer serious consequences, but I imagine the vast majority go home in the morning mostly recovered and the joke of their friends.

Growing minority or not, the scale of alcohol use in the UK is enourmous; some stats I've just found show 11.2 litres of alcohol per person over 14 - that's around 400 pints of 5% beer per person per year!

http://www.ias.org.uk/resources/factsheets/consumption-uk.pdf
 
I gave up drinking, as woke up without the beer goggles to many times. Edit (eww the bad memories)

Also once got arrested 200 yards from my house (already walked 4 miles from the club), for saying "i am nice guy, now **** off copper leave me alone I am ok" an threw my bank card floor - still to this day do not understand why he didn't just leave me be or take me home
 
s2h81 said:
Also once got arrested 200 yards from my house (already walked 4 miles from the club), for saying "i am nice guy, now **** off copper leave me alone I am ok" an threw my bank card floor - still to this day do not understand why he didn't just leave me be or take me home
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That's so lame. There was a cop show on awhile ago when a man swore so the police at the scene saw that as really good excuse to be unnecessarily antagonistic... it was really bad.
 
I don't think it should be banned, but the existing laws (I think?) stating that you can't serve someone who is very drunk should be enforced (or created if I have made them up), you should be made to get a licence and training to serve alcohol and once someone is obviously drunk they should be cut off. It'd actually be a relatively simple thing to implement and would allow people to have a good time, but stop people from going too far, hell you could go mental and have breathalysers at the bar. Drinking in your own home obviously wouldn't be regulated, but I don't think it should be.
 
Moses said:
The best bit of those shows is when they scream, 'HE'S RESISTING ARREST' and then get physical... when the person in question was doing nothing at all. I saw an episode of one based in Blackpool and that basically happened, and the officer in question (who reminded me of David Brent) basically said it was a huge guy who'd kicked off... when in fact it was a completely averagely sized man and he'd just been sitting in his car.

I say best bit. I just mean that's the farcical highlight.
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I will often go to great lengths to avoid arresting someone. Arresting people means more work for everyone involved and if I can find a better solution I'll try.

Also, the TV programmes can be deceptive. It's difficult to anticipate when people are going to kick off. It's often subtle and comes with experience. Things that may look over the top to you may be very different in reality.
 
I'm not a big drinker by any means, and i've never seen the appeal of getting blackout drunk in a club over having a social drink in a pub. I would certainly not be happy to totally give up alcohol though, i enjoy feeling merry.
 
I've been sick many a time from being drunk, but that's nearly always been due to nausea accompanied by a headache the following morning. I've never been to hospital due to being drunk and never been arrested.

I personally like going out with the guys and just sitting around drinking one pint after another, I don't even realise that I'm getting drunk half the time and its only because of the headache the following morning that I realise I actually was drunk! If I'm sick, its usually because somebody has decided we should mix some spirits into the equation.
 
I get blind drunk quite a lot. Its a thin line between a very good night and being drunk and being that drunk you cant remember 3 hours of the night the next day.

I would like to see the state of the NHS if there was no tax from Alcohol and Cigarettes, but also without the problems. Like wise if there was no alcohol police would be greatly reduced so a big saving there, but also a huge loss of jobs.

Comparing to rave nights where there was never any problems
 
Guest2 said:
I would like to see the state of the NHS if there was no tax from Alcohol and Cigarettes, but also without the problems. Like wise if there was no alcohol police would be greatly reduced so a big saving there, but also a huge loss of jobs.
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Are you suggesting that we should keep the status quo to keep jobs?
 
'Tax from Alcohol and Cigarettes, but also without the problems.'
'Like wise if there was no alcohol police would be greatly reduced'

There you have it.
 
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Burnsy2023 said:
Are you suggesting that we should keep the status quo to keep jobs?
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No, but if there was no alcohol there wouldn't be anywhere near as many jobs in a few different areas. Its never going to be made illegal anyway - If it was a new 'drug' it would be banned tomorrow but the country relies on it too heavily now
 
It would be interesting to see the figures behind treating smoking or drinking related problems compared to the income from tax on tabacco and alcohol.

A while back a hospital near me was criticized for giving NHS funds to the council for additional gritting. But it was because they calculated that it was cheaper to do that than it would be to treat the injuries from people falling on pavements that would otherwise be ungritted.

I wonder if a ban on alcohol would work out as a net loss to the government? I'm pretty sure a ban on smoking would.
 
Skeeter said:
It would be interesting to see the figures behind treating smoking or drinking related problems compared to the income from tax on tabacco and alcohol.
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It would be hugely difficult to calculate clearly and fairly. I imagine many have tried, but you can never really figure the entire impact - NHS cost of alcoholism vs. alcohol duty is far from the full picture. In purely economic terms it's probably a loss.
 
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