Bought an S2000! Sold the Mountune Fiesta!

Dredd said:
your be a dead man doing that in s2000, way to much correction.

all about being smooth, i did a great slide today i think people watching was stocked too :D

at a junction, turn right (very wide open road) 1st gear, 2nd then power :) perfect slide coming out, rear went around perfectly with a small correction let off power very small amount and back on full power let wheel go straight.

i could do that all day on every roundabout and conner :)
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Probably shocked at how much of an idiot you are for doing this on public roads. Well done.
 
whatever, get down from your high horse. my M3 has no traction control, dsc, anything, i have had times when the car steps out completely intentionally, you just have to deal with it, its what men did for decades.

if anything, provoking it delibrately from time to time is a good thing so you keep those reflexes sharp because if i wasnt used to the back end wagging from time to time id have binned the BMW and other rwd cars ive oversteered in the past
 
Matt82 said:
whatever, get down from your high horse. my M3 has no traction control, dsc, anything, i have had times when the car steps out completely intentionally, you just have to deal with it, its what men did for decades.

if anything, provoking it delibrately from time to time is a good thing so you keep those reflexes sharp because if i wasnt used to the back end wagging from time to time id have binned the BMW and other rwd cars ive oversteered in the past
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If this happens then you drove too fast for the conditions of the road. Provoking this stuff on public roads is pathetic and dangerous. It's not a good thing at all.
 
Dredd said:
your be a dead man doing that in s2000, way to much correction.

all about being smooth, i did a great slide today i think people watching was stocked too :D

at a junction, turn right (very wide open road) 1st gear, 2nd then power :) perfect slide coming out, rear went around perfectly with a small correction let off power very small amount and back on full power let wheel go straight.

i could do that all day on every roundabout and conner :)
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On public roads.....douche.

Save it for the track.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
If this happens then you drove too fast for the conditions of the road. Provoking this stuff on public roads is pathetic and dangerous. It's not a good thing at all.
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You sound so clued up, i must remember to keep an eye out for your posts in the future.

Last time it happened to my car was in first gear on a roundabout, not much more than idle speed when i had to react to a fool that had just cut me up. when i reapplied the throttle after, it stepped out.

speed or going too fast had nothing to do with it, unless you subscribe to the "all accidents are speed related because if you were stationary you wouldnt have been moving" level of mentality
 
To be honest he is right, it happens when you make a mistake, not randomly for the lulz. We've all had it happen but we were all doing something wrong at the time. Your M3 did it because you used too much throttle. It's pretty much that simple?
 
exactly, it doesnt make you a bad person, but getting used to those reflexes is a sensible thing to do, IMO

earlier in the thread i asked if it was the first time he had had it sideways, why, because the first time you go sideways, its something youre not used to, so panic is a natural reaction which does no favours to your chances of survival

i dont think the s2000 has TC either, is that right? then youre mad for not being familiar with how it will fee and how to react when the rear does go wayward

persecuting someone whose car has dared to go sideways on a public road is completely wrong
 
But I thought it was established OcUK fact that RWD is no more likely to cause you to crash than FWD and they are all as safe as each other ;)
 
153lb/ft engine torque and no TC. The power vs traction isn't the issue though. Its more about lateral response.
 
Clarkey said:
Yes, this is the simple part, and letting the wheel spin is pretty essential if the chassis is rotating quickly otherwise you will spin without a doubt.

Once you are in a slide though, now you have to get out of it gracefully, and doing this wrong is where everybody crashes or loses control.
From my experience once you've gotten yourself to a silly angle the only way to back is with power, and wind the steering back to the centre. It's a delicate balance and you will only be able to do it with practice though tbf.

Let off the power and/or apply too much corrective lock and the car will snap and try to kill you. Watch from 0.40 and I will demonstrate this point visually.
Could ride it out on the track there, on the road that would likely end up with a crash though. Shouldn't be hanging it out on the streets anyway really now though ;)
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An S2000 will never slide on the road though. The problem is due to backing out md corner and it spitting you off the road with the pendulum back. Lack of traction induced slides are completely different.

They are no where near a forgiving as an E36 either.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Probably shocked at how much of an idiot you are for doing this on public roads. Well done.
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ok, i won't do it. could end up hitting few cars and sign post when i don't know how to correct it, and loose control..(like OP) if he did the above he maybe still driving the car today ....

its about doing it in a safe place, wide road and condition. its different if i was doing it in a town centre, loads of public on foot path and loads of parked cars and move cars...

Alpine iDA-X305S looks really nice, but i do like a cd player sometimes.
 
OP. Sorry to hear about your car :(

My S2000 scared me too many times on a trip to Scotland and I promptly sold it as soon as I got home.
People that harp on about them being one of the best handling RWD cars are talking nonsense.
If an S2000 is one of the best then I shudder to think what the worst is like!

As for the damage. From the pics it doesn't look that bad. Still. It's probably still an uneconomical repair.

Onwards and upwards though.
 
http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/492989-rear-wheel-steer-why/page__st__25

Interesting thread on it - Nick has had his for ages and makes some interesting points. He also has a 4WS Prelude, an NSX and a GT86 and its seems he can drive well. I'm in his camp of thoughts on Honda's system. A lot of people don't like it though and fit the rear arms to reduce bump steer.

He loves the handling on his Prelude with the active steering.
 
Wow that escalated quickly.

To be honest - I wouldn't bother trying to get it repaired or buying it back or anything. You only had it a few days so no attachment to it and the recent purchase will help with negotiating the value. They're not common cars but you'll be able to find another one - if you keep this one you'll be trying to sell a cat d that's had an engine swap when you want to sell it!
 
Dredd said:
ok, i won't do it. could end up hitting few cars and sign post when i don't know how to correct it, and loose control..(like OP) if he did the above he maybe still driving the car today ....

its about doing it in a safe place, wide road and condition. its different if i was doing it in a town centre, loads of public on foot path and loads of parked cars and move cars...

Alpine iDA-X305S looks really nice, but i do like a cd player sometimes.
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I'm sorry, but driving like an idiot on public roads is not big or clever :rolleyes:

If you want to drive like this, go to a track day ;)
 
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