Some people have too much time to argue every last word.
Right or not right to enter, show them the TV setup and say goodbye.
Stop wasting everyones time.
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Right or not right to enter, show them the TV setup and say goodbye.
Stop wasting everyones time.
Well, that says it all really.
Just for the record, I don't own a TV and do not watch 'live' TV so do not need a TV license.
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Has detector van evidence ever been submitted yet? Certainly the last few times i looked up the subject, its never once led to lawful intervention!
or just say bye and close the door without confirming your identity which is mostly what they want
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The BBC is left wing propaganda.
Sky is right wing propaganda.
The BBC gets money from tax and by sending threatening letters.
Sky gets money from customers choosing to purchase their service.
I pay the TV License for the BBC.
I pay the Sky subscription because the BBC don't do sport.
Sky is right wing propaganda.
The BBC gets money from tax and by sending threatening letters.
Sky gets money from customers choosing to purchase their service.
I pay the TV License for the BBC.
I pay the Sky subscription because the BBC don't do sport.
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I'm confused by that video. Why couldn't they enforce the warrant and if they couldn't, how did they get one in the first place?
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Also, I thought a warrant had to be signed by a judge?
IIRC it's standard practice not to force entry for the TVL apparently, so whilst a warrant may actually give them the power to do a search, I don't think they've ever forced an entry (possiblyfor PR reasons more than anything else).
Not by a long shot (unless you're in America), from what I remember of UK law, most search warrants in the UK are presented to, and signed by Magistrates for standard issues, as our Magistrates hold the same sort of position a low level Judge does in the US.
IE in the US pretty much every case goes before a judge, even if it's simply to sort out if someone is to be held in remand, released on bail or a search warrant is to be issued, whilst here almost every case (regardless of how serious it is) starts off at the Magistrates court, where it will be either dealt with by them, or passed on up the chain (IE anything with a potential sentence over 6 months will be passed on).
It saves the government from having thousands of extra judges on the payrol, whilst also ensuring that in many cases the justice is supposed to be more local (as magistrates are traditionally fairly normal people with day jobs, who have volunteered and been trained to do the job in their local area).
I've often wondered this so seems appropriate to ask here:
How do the detection vans work with services like Virgin Media? My TV comes through the ground (along the same cabling as my broadband as far as I'm aware as there's only one cable going into the outside box) where it's then split into the Superhub and TiVo boxes.
Might've been covered already but I know zilch about this sorta thing!
How do the detection vans work with services like Virgin Media? My TV comes through the ground (along the same cabling as my broadband as far as I'm aware as there's only one cable going into the outside box) where it's then split into the Superhub and TiVo boxes.
Might've been covered already but I know zilch about this sorta thing!
TV detector vans don't exist, or at least any evidence gathered from one would not stand up to even mild legal scrutiny. It's more of a stick to beat non payers with
Nope tvcatchup ftw
MW
Yes, you need a license to watch live broadcasts, even via TVCatchup.com
They say as much on their own website, so quite where you got that idea from i'm not sure
please explain.
Someone should just settle this tv detector van debate. All it would take is a high gain antenna and a spectrum analyser.
Yes, the oscillator circuitry could create an rf signal. However, I do wonder what the power of this signal is and if it is distinguishable from other noise.
Yes, the oscillator circuitry could create an rf signal. However, I do wonder what the power of this signal is and if it is distinguishable from other noise.
Let me put it another way, can you find any evidence that anything found using a "detector van" mas made it to a court of law? There isn't any. In any sort of urban environment there is many sources of EM noise. Flats would be a nightmare
**As an aside, I have a TV license, always have. I enjoy some BBC content even though I rarely if ever watch it live, so the price is digestible. I am not an anti BBC nut**
that's not putting it another way, that is a totally separate topic! Please explain what basic legal scrutiny would prevent (or refute or rule moot or...) potential detector van evidence from being used.
Innocent until proven guilty (I won't be drawn on the whole criminal vs civil here) - prove that reading came from my house and not next door/the lodgers room/my microwave/insert any electrical appliance here/swamp gas
PROOF is hard to come by, and to be able to prove it beyond reasonable doubt, to people who are not electrical engineers or ham radio buffs would be... hard work, for little reward
I thought when you said that *any* (detector van) evidence will not hold up to legal scrutiny that you meant there was a legal reason why the evidence would not be valid. What you are actually saying is that it is your belief that it is not possible to obtain such evidence.
Signal picked up from an LCD @ 25 meters
http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/03/09/video-eavesdropping-demo-at-cebit-2006/
If you could walk around a house then you could determine if the signal came from inside as a directional antenna is used. It would be easy enough to make this into a handheld device as this is 7 year old technology now.
Personally I doubt they could justify the cost unless unless non payment increases.
Hopefully their doorstep man can recognise that my old analogue aerial will not pick up the digital signal and not bother me with silly questions.
http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2006/03/09/video-eavesdropping-demo-at-cebit-2006/
If you could walk around a house then you could determine if the signal came from inside as a directional antenna is used. It would be easy enough to make this into a handheld device as this is 7 year old technology now.
Personally I doubt they could justify the cost unless unless non payment increases.
Hopefully their doorstep man can recognise that my old analogue aerial will not pick up the digital signal and not bother me with silly questions.