Paying for TV License

So in theory, you couldn't get out of it if you had say TiVo, because that signal isn't technically live, as its delayed by a few seconds so you can pause "live tv"

As in could that be a loophole you could argue on?
 
So in theory, you couldn't get out of it if you had say TiVo, because that signal isn't technically live, as its delayed by a few seconds so you can pause "live tv"

As in could that be a loophole you could argue on?

Don't think you can as you are still operating a tv tuner.

If someone really wanted to royally annoy them, you could just send a letter that removes property access rights.
They would then be trespassing the minute they set foot on your property.
 
Signal picked up from an LCD @ 25 meters

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If you could walk around a house then you could determine if the signal came from inside as a directional antenna is used. It would be easy enough to make this into a handheld device as this is 7 year old technology now.
Personally I doubt they could justify the cost unless unless non payment increases.

Hopefully their doorstep man can recognise that my old analogue aerial will not pick up the digital signal and not bother me with silly questions.

you would need new laws to allow a private company to break data protection laws and spy on the general public - ain't gonna happen.
 
Erm, there is no such thing as a "digital" aerial... all aerials receive digital and analogue signals.
Look at the post I made, you think I don't know how TV works? :D

My analogue aerial does not have enough gain, without a longer preamble it's difficult to describe what type of transmission I'm referring to. Digital vs Analogue is pretty well understood as a casual way of putting it, this isn't a HAM forum.
(To be pedantic, all aerials only receive analogue signals)
 
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Anyway, the BBC is a crock of ****. People balk at the likes of RT and then hold the BBC up as some sort of bastion of impartiality and morality.

BS.

Go and live overseas for a while and you'll discover the BBC is exceptional TV. It also raises the standards of other channels because of the competition.
 
So in theory, you couldn't get out of it if you had say TiVo, because that signal isn't technically live, as its delayed by a few seconds so you can pause "live tv"

As in could that be a loophole you could argue on?

no. your tivo is recording live - you need a license.
 
Go and live overseas for a while and you'll discover the BBC is exceptional TV. It also raises the standards of other channels because of the competition.

I don't watch a single program broadcast on the bbc they make crap programs and have done for along time now
 
While I moan about Tv license it's only £12pcm by DD.

When i was in Canada tv was crap, had cable with US channels (excluding premium HBO etc) with 20mb internet it was well over $100 a month. Compared to that with the quality of programming UK is a bargain.

Only thing that is ***** over here is sport. TSN/ESPN had just about everything on and setanta had every single premier game on. (1 3pm live then the rest throughout the day). And the us channels had local NFL etc games on.
 
Look at the post I made, you think I don't know how TV works? :D

My analogue aerial does not have enough gain, without a longer preamble it's difficult to describe what type of transmission I'm referring to. Digital vs Analogue is pretty well understood as a casual way of putting it, this isn't a HAM forum.
(To be pedantic, all aerials only receive analogue signals)
Actually it's not a matter of gain because with the analogue transmitters all switched off, the power on the digital transmitters have been increased so that existing aerials will still be able to receive the signals to give a P5 quality picture.

What differentiates a 'digital' or 'analogue' aerial is the range of frequencies it's designed to work on. Aerials defined for analogue reception tended to have smaller bandwidths to suit the local area whereas aerials for Freeview are wideband. Many people had to replace their aerial, not to increase the gain but to go from a narrowband aerial to a wideband one. Of course, when both systems were running simultaneously, the digital transmitters were on lower power so there's a good chance that replacement aerials would have been higher gain but it's not essential now.

Anyway, I still feel that the change was unnecessary and stupid but that's not what this thread is about.
 
If you don't want to pay it, don't. Just make sure you don't let a TV license person in and you will be fine.
They cannot force entry, have no evidence so cannot get lawful backing for a warrant.

This sums it up, Don't contract with these people and they have nothing. The Communications Act is not law, It's only given the force of law by your consent.
 
This sums it up, Don't contract with these people and they have nothing. The Communications Act is not law, It's only given the force of law by your consent.

That sounds suspiciously similar to the sort of rhetoric spouted by the 'free man on the land' brigade.
 
Aerials defined for analogue reception tended to have smaller bandwidths to suit the local area whereas aerials for Freeview are wideband. Many people had to replace their aerial, not to increase the gain but to go from a narrowband aerial to a wideband one.

I knew about the power increase, but I'm not sure my rusty twig will pick anything up as I'm in a fringe area and in a dead spot.

I didn't want a big flappy wideband one so I picked up a nice Group B type a while back, but then I decided I didn't watch TV and haven't installed it. Leaves room for the huge FM aerial instead :)
 
They can't cross the threshold of your door. Neither can dataserve or other electric meter readers and so on.

You can effectively ignore them.

The electricity and gas companies can however break in to shut off or replace your meters quite easily (IIRC they can very easily obtain authorisation to break in if you refuse to let them check your meters, or if they consider there to be a risk).

So you have be pretty silly not to allow the gas and electricity people in, as eventually if you refuse the meter readers access the companies may well get the order to gain access and forcibly check or replace your meters (as they need to be able to check the meter readings themselves from time to time)..
 
The electricity and gas companies can however break in to shut off or replace your meters quite easily (IIRC they can very easily obtain authorisation to break in if you refuse to let them check your meters, or if they consider there to be a risk).

So you have be pretty silly not to allow the gas and electricity people in, as eventually if you refuse the meter readers access the companies may well get the order to gain access and forcibly check or replace your meters (as they need to be able to check the meter readings themselves from time to time)..

They cannot obtain authorisation to break in if you refuse access for reading.

They can if you have not paid your bills, it is rare but if you cannot / do not pay then normally a pre-pay meter would be put in place.

I never let them in, I always pay my bills and phone in readings. If they don't trust me that's their problem.

No one has knocked my door down.
 
Nope tvcatchup ftw :)

MW

Wrong, you need a license. The license doesn't care how the signal is being broadcast, as long as you are watching or recording a live signal then you need a license. Tvcatchup is live so you need a license.

Most stuff on Iplayer and the like arent live so you wouldn't need a license.
 
Wrong, you need a license. The license doesn't care how the signal is being broadcast, as long as you are watching or recording a live signal then you need a license. Tvcatchup is live so you need a license.

Most stuff on Iplayer and the like arent live so you wouldn't need a license.
 
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