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wingman said:
If there is oncoming traffic, the overtaker shouldn't be attempting the manoeuvre.
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A perfectly safe overtaking gap could very quickly become a fatal situation when you have an idiot on the road intent on prolonging the time the overtaker is on the wrong side of the road. If you can't see that you're either stupid or... well, I can't actually think of any other excuse.

wingman said:
I get the impression that the people responding to my thoughts "are" the type of people attempting the manoeuvre in the first place.
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And that's relevant how? Unless you are a traffic officer (which I highly doubt since you seem to have no grasp of road safety) it's none of your business what speed other people choose to drive at.

wingman said:
You're creating a situation that promotes your opinion. Driving at 75mph on a NSL could also create a high speed crash.
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So could driving at 55mph.

I'm guessing you conveniently chose to ignore the section of the highway code which you so flagrantly choose to breach? :rolleyes:
 
wingman said:
If other motorists are breaking the speed limit around me it certainly is causing a dangerous situation for myself and passengers.

Again, it is my business if other road users find it acceptable to speed around vehicle, creating a dangerous situation for me.
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So you create an even more dangerous one by forcing them to speed more, by yourself speeding and forcing them to stay on the opposite carriageway far longer than is necessary?

Are you actually mentally ill? In what warped way does that response even make the slightest bit of sense?

That's before we even address the ridiculous idea that somehow a car driving faster than speed limit is somehow causing a directly dangerous situation for you.

Just to try and reinforce things a little bit:

Highway Code Rule 168 said:
Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
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You are a dangerous driver. Simple as that.
 
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wingman said:
If other motorists are breaking the speed limit around me it certainly is causing a dangerous situation for myself and passengers.

Again, it is my business if other road users find it acceptable to speed around vehicle, creating a dangerous situation for me.
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You're either trolling, or are incredibly stupid. If it's the latter, I really hope you lose your licence before you kill either yourself or someone else :eek:
 
pioneer2000 said:
Anyone that is overtaking someone at 75mph on a NSL road shouldn't be overtaking. :rolleyes:

Self-important morons do this.
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I'd rather share the road with someone doing at safe overtake a 75mph and disappearing off into the distance than someone who is delusional enough to think it's their responsibility to "teach speeders a lesson" by trying to cause a crash :rolleyes:
 
No, but nobody is forcing anyone to break the speed limit to overtake. At the end of the day, it's the overtaker, not the other guy that's going to end up in the crap if something goes wrong.
 
Haggisman said:
A perfectly safe overtaking gap could very quickly become a fatal situation when you have an idiot on the road intent on prolonging the time the overtaker is on the wrong side of the road. If you can't see that you're either stupid or... well, I can't actually think of any other excuse.

And that's relevant how? Unless you are a traffic officer (which I highly doubt since you seem to have no grasp of road safety) it's none of your business what speed other people choose to drive at.

So could driving at 55mph.

I'm guessing you conveniently chose to ignore the section of the highway code which you so flagrantly choose to breach? :rolleyes:
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Okay, I'll ignore the name calling, as that seems to be an acceptable way of treating people on this forum. But I'll address your other points.

It's a relevant point because if the type of people who are getting angry at my thoughts of this situation ARE the type of people to commit the situation I have highlighted, then their opinion is bias.

Driving at 55mph in a NSL is an irrelevant point simply because it is not breaking the law. I'm guessing you chose to ignore that section of the highway code?

Kenai said:
So you create an even more dangerous one by forcing them to speed more, by yourself speeding and forcing them to stay on the opposite carriageway far longer than is necessary?

Are you actually mentally ill? In what warped way does that response even make the slightest bit of sense?
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Hold on, what part of my manœuvrer "makes them speed more", exactly? Is the option not to pull back behind not there?

I have not suggested I "don't let them get passed", let alone what speed I am happy to accelerate to (in all fairness it could be as little as 1mph over the national limit, or 100mph over).

Mentally ill? This is becoming quite insulting. I'd rather you stop with that if you would be so kind.
 
pioneer2000 said:
No, but nobody is forcing anyone to break the speed limit to overtake. At the end of the day, it's the overtaker, not the other guy that's going to end up in the crap if something goes wrong.
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Well actually no, in the circumstance of someone deliberately speeding up to prevent an overtake, it would be both parties at the very least, depending on whether the overtaker carries on or just gives up.

As the highway code says:

Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous.

If you drive like that, you are a dangerous driver. Simple.
 
pioneer2000 said:
No, but nobody is forcing anyone to break the speed limit to overtake. At the end of the day, it's the overtaker, not the other guy that's going to end up in the crap if something goes wrong.
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If I'm overtaking you, and you accelerate, forcing me into the path of oncoming traffic, I have a choice - head-on collision, or barge the idiot to my left off the road so I can get out of the way. I'll give you a clue which option I'd choose (it's not the head-on collision).

Still think it's a good idea?

Oh and since clicking on a link is so difficult for you, here's the section of the highway code you should probably read:

168

Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.
 
wingman said:
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No your an idiot, not gonna sugar coat it - theres a far higher chance of an innocent person getting killed by your actions than the person speeding being taught a lesson.

What your doing is both incredible dangerous, stupid and counter to the highway code.
 
wingman said:
It's a relevant point because if the type of people who are getting angry at my thoughts of this situation ARE the type of people to commit the situation I have highlighted, then their opinion is bias.
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That's irrelevant, because it's not opinion that what you are doing is dangerous, it's fact. Or are you now claiming to know better than the highway code?

wingman said:
Driving at 55mph in a NSL is an irrelevant point simply because it is not breaking the law. I'm guessing you chose to ignore that section of the highway code?
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Legal/illegal does not automatically mean safe/unsafe.

Doing 75mph on a long straight on a dry bright day is far safer than doing 55 on a windy road in the middle of the night when it's icy. Speed in itself is not dangerous, speed which is not appropriate for the conditions is, and in the right conditions 75mph is not dangerous, however much you may wish it were.
 
Haggisman said:
If I'm overtaking you, and you accelerate, forcing me into the path of oncoming traffic, I have a choice - head-on collision, or barge the idiot to my left off the road so I can get out of the way. I'll give you a clue which option I'd choose (it's not the head-on collision)
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I hope you realise how ridiculously childish that sounds.

If you got yourself in that situation by not backing off from an overtake / not being dangerous by starting an overtake with visible oncoming traffic then god help you.

It's practically guaranteed to be held against the overtaker whatever the outcome. It's undoubtedly very unlikely that any proof to blame the person blocking an overtake would come about. Methinks your car smashing head on / into the back of the car you're overtaking would be slightly more incriminating. :o
 
Haggisman said:
Speed in itself is not dangerous, speed which is not appropriate for the conditions is, and in the right conditions 75mph is not dangerous, however much you may wish it were.
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75mph is potentially quite dangerous on ALL roads bar motorways. It's a incredibly fast speed for country lanes / any winding roads. If you don't think that then you must be crazy.
 
Haggisman said:
That's irrelevant, because it's not opinion that what you are doing is dangerous, it's fact. Or are you now claiming to know better than the highway code?

Legal/illegal does not automatically mean safe/unsafe.

Doing 75mph on a long straight on a dry bright day is far safer than doing 55 on a windy road in the middle of the night when it's icy. Speed in itself is not dangerous, speed which is not appropriate for the conditions is, and in the right conditions 75mph is not dangerous, however much you may wish it were.
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Seems like you forgot to read the highway code regarding speed limits. It's your opinion doing 75mph in a NSL is safer in certain conditions than doing 55mph in other, contrasting conditions (one that I agree with, by all accounts), however, are you now claiming to know better than the highway code? Doing 75mpg in a NSL is still illegal.
 
pioneer2000 said:
It's undoubtedly very unlikely that any proof to blame the person blocking an overtake would come about. Methinks your car smashing head on / into the back of the car you're overtaking would be slightly more incriminating. :o
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One of the reasons I'm seriously contemplating getting an onboard camera these days.
 
Appreciate the apology earlier wingman, thanks.

wingman said:
It's a relevant point because if the type of people who are getting angry at my thoughts of this situation ARE the type of people to commit the situation I have highlighted, then their opinion is bias.
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I have again to disagree with you on this point though.

I don't ever consider myself to be someone that would overtake someone that is doing the speed limit but I could easily be on the receiving end of your antics coming the other direction. Regardless of laws, someone could safely pass you going at 100mph but I don't think at any point would it be considered safe to stop someone over taking you...
 
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