Busted :(

[Kenai]

Hold on, what part of my manœuvrer "makes them speed more", exactly? Is the option not to pull back behind not there?

I have not suggested I "don't let them get passed", let alone what speed I am happy to accelerate to (in all fairness it could be as little as 1mph over the national limit, or 100mph over).

Mentally ill? This is becoming quite insulting. I'd rather you stop with that if you would be so kind.

Well the part where you speed up. They can either try and complete the overtake, so they can continue their journey away from the sort of idiot that drives dangerously like you, or give up and remain in proximity to you and your dangerous driving.

I know i'd rather vacate the same road space if at all possible.

I don't give a toss how insulted you feel, you are a dangerous driver and deserve every single bit of derision and insulting language you are on the receiving end of.

It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if you were mentally ill though, when you break down the situation logically.

Scenario 1: Person goes to overtake you at above the speed limit. You let them do so and they complete the overtake and drive off into the distance. The entire situation is over in a matter of a few seconds, the 'dangerous situation' has passed and the driver driving in a manner you disapprove of has now driven away down the road and well away from being in a position to cause you any harm at all.

Scenario 2: Person goes to overtake you at above the speed limit. You are annoyed by this as you don't like people driving above the speed limit. Your first response is accelerate to beyond the speed limit yourself. This causes the overtaker to drop back and stay behind you, leaving you remaining in close proximity to someone you deem to drive dangerously who you have more than likely just aggravated significantly.

Scenario 3: Person goes to overtake you at above the speed limit. You are annoyed by this as you don't like people driving above the speed limit. Your first response is accelerate to beyond the speed limit yourself. This causes the overtaker to increase their speed still further, exacerbating the 'dangerous' nature of the behaviour that annoyed you to start with. The overtaking move now takes far longer than before and at much higher speed than was necessary, putting everyone in significantly more danger than would have been the case if you hadn't accelerated.

At what point options 2 or 3 ever seem like the best response I have no idea, and I can't think why any sensible, normal, well adjusted driver would choose to take that course of action.

It is dangerous driving and you are a dangerous driver. Maybe one day that will sink in.

 

[PikeyPriest]

Okay, I'll ignore the name calling, as that seems to be an acceptable way of treating people on this forum. But I'll address your other points.

It's a relevant point because if the type of people who are getting angry at my thoughts of this situation ARE the type of people to commit the situation I have highlighted, then their opinion is bias.

Driving at 55mph in a NSL is an irrelevant point simply because it is not breaking the law. I'm guessing you chose to ignore that section of the highway code?



Hold on, what part of my manœuvrer "makes them speed more", exactly? Is the option not to pull back behind not there?

I have not suggested I "don't let them get passed", let alone what speed I am happy to accelerate to (in all fairness it could be as little as 1mph over the national limit, or 100mph over).

Mentally ill? This is becoming quite insulting. I'd rather you stop with that if you would be so kind.

The reason is that you should no care if someone wants to overtake you or not. There is no reason to get angry at it. I don't exactly drive slowly on NSL roads, but if there is GTR, M3 or EVO (there was a convoy of 3 quite recently), I`ll even break to let them past more easily once they are overtaking.

I could try and race them, but all it does is leave them on the wrong side of the road for longer. If they want to pass you that is their decision. Just let them past and forget about it. The second you start trying to accelerate you leave them in the situation of either commiting to the overtake at high speed (65-80+ mph) with them having no idea how idiotic you will be in terms of your max speed, or they have to break and pull back in. You are creating a dangerous situation for no reason and are driving like a child.

I've experienced this behaviour several times and it changes a safe overtake (people doing 50 in a 60) in to a dangerous overtake at 70+ mph. Then when you abort and pull back in they go straight back to 50 mph. These people IMO are driving dangerously and you will get pulled by the police for pulling that stunt.

 

[Haggisman]

I hope you realise how ridiculously childish that sounds.

If you got yourself in that situation by not backing off from an overtake / not being dangerous by starting an overtake with visible oncoming traffic then god help you.

It's practically guaranteed to be held against the overtaker whatever the outcome. It's undoubtedly very unlikely that any proof to blame the person blocking an overtake would come about. Methinks your car smashing head on / into the back of the car you're overtaking would be slightly more incriminating.

And I'm sure the fact it sounds childish and would be held against me would be very comforting for you those few seconds between you realising your car is travelling rather more sideways than expected, and the rather abrupt stop when it crumpled against the rather large tree in front of you.

 

[Kenai]

These people IMO are driving dangerously and you will get pulled by the police for pulling that stunt.

It's not just your opinion that they are driving dangerously, they ARE driving dangerously and the highway code explicitly states that this is the case.

 

[Haggisman]

Seems like you forgot to read the highway code regarding speed limits. It's your opinion doing 75mph in a NSL is safer in certain conditions than doing 55mph in other, contrasting conditions (one that I agree with, by all accounts), however, are you now claiming to know better than the highway code? Doing 75mpg in a NSL is still illegal.

I'm not the one going all vigilante here. Are you a traffic officer?

 

[wingman]

And I'm sure the fact it sounds childish and would be held against me would be very comforting for you those few seconds between you realising your car is travelling rather more sideways than expected, and the rather abrupt stop when it crumpled against the rather large tree in front of you.

That's sorted then, it's the responders on this thread getting annoyed at my opinion because they are the exact people who speed on NSL's.

If you attempt to get passed my vehicle in the situations I've highlighted above and do side swipe me you'll be exceptionally comfortable in prison, too.

 

[pioneer2000]

And I'm sure the fact it sounds childish and would be held against me would be very comforting for you those few seconds between you realising your car is travelling rather more sideways than expected, and the rather abrupt stop when it crumpled against the rather large tree in front of you.

You need to reassess and accept that you are wrong.

That rubbish you've just written isn't even remotely amusing.

Hopefully I won't encounter you on the road as it sounds like you don't know how to drive. Unless you seriously think you have some entitlement to overtake no matter how dangerous it might be or to kill people for getting in your way.

 

[wingman]

I'm not the one going all vigilante here. Are you a traffic officer?

I've been branded a vigilante now?

I prefer maverick. But whatever.

 

[Kenai]

I've been branded a vigilante now?

I prefer maverick. But whatever.

Dangerous driver is more apt though, seeing as it's factually accurate.

 

[wingman]

The reason is that you should no care if someone wants to overtake you or not. There is no reason to get angry at it.

Am I getting this right, you are telling me not to get angry at someone breaking the law, and you are getting angry at me breaking the law?

 

[Kenai]

Am I getting this right, you are telling me not to get angry at someone breaking the law, and you are getting angry at me breaking the law?

No, we are getting angry at you driving dangerously and deliberately putting other motorists at unnecessary risk in your pathetic attempts to teach people a lesson for daring to want to overtake you faster than you deem they should.

 

[wingman]

No, we are getting angry at you driving dangerously and deliberately putting other motorists at unnecessary risk in your pathetic attempts to teach people a lesson for daring to want to overtake you faster than you deem they should.

Where did I say I wanted to "teach" anyone anything?

I want to stop people speeding in my surroundings. If that means speeding myself, well, I trust my driving more than those that consider my travelling at the NSL too slow.

 

[Kenai]

Where did I say I wanted to "teach" anyone anything?

I want to stop people speeding in my surroundings. If that means speeding myself, well, I trust my driving more than those that consider my travelling at the NSL too slow.

Your general posting is enough evidence of the first point.

Regards the second point, if you just let people overtake and then drive away, they'd be well past and out of your vicinity within a matter of seconds. Surely this is by far and away the most logical way to achieve the goal of not having people speeding in your surroundings? Just let them go past and drive away?

Prolonging their exposure to you by either forcing them back behind you so that they'll try again later or forcing them to speed even more and for a longer period to get past you are completely counter productive.

I am starting to wonder now if you are just trolling or if you are genuinely this stupid?

I can't say i'd be too trusting of your driving ability though, given you openly admit to dangerous driving.

 

[Horse Pop]

Is this an elaborate troll?

Is the forum getting taken over by BRAKE?

 

[wingman]

Just let them go past and drive away?

Prolonging their exposure to you by either forcing them back behind you or forcing them to speed even more and for a longer period to get past you are completely counter productive.

And then endanger the next vehicle they encounter on the road? Sometimes, you have to break an egg to make an omelet.

It's counter productive only to the driver originally breaking the law by overtaking.

I am starting to wonder now if you are just trolling or if you are genuinely this stupid?

You're a hard man calling people you don't know names from behind your keyboard.

 

[GW1970]

Wingman i'm trying to get my head around your idea that by you speeding will somehow stop somebody else from speeding near you - nope lost me on that one.

 

[Kenai]

And then endanger the next vehicle they encounter on the road? Sometimes, you have to break an egg to make an omelet.

It's counter productive only to the driver originally breaking the law by overtaking.

I don't even know where to start, such is the level of stupidity present in those comments.

You're a hard man calling people you don't know names from behind your keyboard.

And you're a complete **** for driving dangerously on public roads.

The fact you admit to being a dangerous driver and yet still try and claim some sort of moral high ground is astounding.

Regardless, whether you're now trolling for reactions or you genuinely are stupid enough to believe you're in the right, i'm not wasting any more of my evening on you or your ridiculous attempts to justify your dangerous behaviour.

I sincerely hope I never encounter you on a public road and that you get pulled over for your dangerous behaviour sooner rather than later.

 

[wingman]

I don't even know where to start, such is the level of stupidity present in those comments.

Epic response, ignoring my comments. Like you have done the entire thread.

And you're a complete **** for driving dangerously on public roads.

The fact you admit to being a dangerous driver and yet still try and claim some sort of moral hig hground is astounding.

Regardless, whether you're now trolling for reactions or you genuinely are stupid enough to believe you're in the right, i'm not wasting any more of my evening on you or your ridiculous attempts to justify your dangerous behaviour.

I sincerely hope I never encounter you on a public road and that you get pulled over for your dangerous behaviour sooner rather than later.

I never implied a moral high ground, only a response to law breaking boy racers.

Enjoy your evening.

 

[GW1970]

Wingman just one last question - do you actually have a driving licence or in fact a car and I don't mean one on "need for speed"

 

[Rroff]

^^ I hope he is trolling, pushing people who are already showing poor judgement into an even more dangerous situation and expecting them to necessarily do anything other than then make even more bad decisions is gob smacking... and just as poor judgement if you can't see that it then causes a situation thats likely to involve another innocent 3rd party.