Tricked into a Google+ Account (YouTube)

Surely you didn't think Google made all those billions of $ by giving away free software and the occasional ad? It sounds like a bad advert for 1984 but it's not governments who are gradually cataloguing everything you do, it's a private company. How long before you have to verify your real name, address and phone number to get this "free" stuff?

Advertising isn't a problem, especially in return for some "free" services. It's the pervasiveness and small changes made by Google (and to a lesser degree others), bit by bit that concern me. It might be fine, but I do wonder if people will look back in 10 years time and wonder how they walked into giving away their privacy with open arms.

Perhaps I'm just getting old and grumpy, but I'd rather pay for something I needed as a single transaction without the privacy and tracking baggage Google services seem to bring. Whilst I'm sure they're not interested in me specifically they manage to make billions of $ each year from aggregating the personal information on people. It seems to be spreading from "opt in" to a gradual move to having to try to opt out. Individual pieces of information may not be a big deal but should we be concerned if a single company want's to have ultimate control to track, aggregate, track and sell our Email, web browsing, social networks and friends details, videos (and viewing habits) amongst other "stuff", particularly if your ability to opt out of services and elements of data collection starts to be eroded. Is "if you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide and not require personal privacy" really acceptable? Maybe it is /shrug

I can't help but wonder what the response would be if a government was tracking people internet usage, email, friends, contacts, phone calls etc in the same way that a private company whose only mission is to make share holders money does.

Evil? Maybe not, starting to take the **** and a cause for concern? Maybe.
 
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How the hell are they allowed to trick YouTube users into joining Google+? I abhor social media and actually felt genuine revulsion when I saw what they had done, there was no way of not joining it and no way of knowing you were joining it until the actual account page, so I immediately closed the account (Cheeky ****ing *******s!) and now it looks like I've lost my YouTube account too.. :mad::mad::mad:

You abhor social media yet are on a forum and watching youtube? Strange....
 
I also abhor social websites and never post on OCUK either.


If you seriously cannot see the differences between social media sites such as Facebook and Google+ and Online Forums then there's something not quite right with you.

All we need now is the 'Nothing to Hide brigade' to come and post their Forum Login/Passwords and their Credit Card numbers, Security Codes and expiry dates, after all there's nothing to hide, right? ;)
 
No idea why people get so upset, just don't use it? I don't even notice it's there as I still use my on-line handle instead of my real name for a Youtube account. The Google+ thing doesn't bother me at all.
 
If you seriously cannot see the differences between social media sites such as Facebook and Google+ and Online Forums then there's something not quite right with you.

it's you who has got the wrong view on this.

there obviously is a difference to reguariliy posting on an internet forum, then to just having an account with google which is named google+ but you don't ever use it as a social network. google+ is in this instance simply the name of the account type, nothing more. they don't make you use it. you use this forum and post on here which is more social then just having an unused account with g+
 
The full name thing on youtube is very annoying... *just want to post a quick reply on a video... wtf is this popup, ok I'll just close this, argh, click, click, click, wait what? why won't it just go away?*clicks back* tries to post again*not again*click random options til it goes away*forget what I was going to post anyway**
 
Good to see people are finally getting annoyed about this sort of thing, google did something similar back a year or so ago, they wanted to connect all accounts or add to them, worse though was when they started wanting a mobile attached to the account, first they popped up a nag screen occasionally for months with no permanent way to say no and stop it, then it got more frequent then eventually you had to do it, its the same here and with wanting a real name, they'll nag and nag but eventually like it or not you'll be forced to give up. :rolleyes:

Add this all up and google now tracks you like nothing else, most sites have google stats and captchas, your android phone requires an account to be useful, they can do clever association tracking so even if you don't take part you'll be tracked by how you browse and what your friends and family do on your connection.

It used to be that giving personal info online was a bad idea and a stupid thing to do but that all changed since social networking and companies like google wanted to track and sell your info to advertisers.
 
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Why don't you just use... a fake name?

I do, but I am angry that they tricked me into the account, I in no way whatsoever wish to be any part of social networking or even support it any any shape of form, the sooner there's a huge backlash against the data-mining scum the better as far as I'm concerned, like others have said, if I wish to use a service, I'd rather PAY for it than be spied upon. People need to start valuing their privacy more.
 
Why don't you just use... a fake name?

Sure you can, but to make an account you need to have a mobile and receive a txt code, which no doubt is logged along with your location, if google or anyone else has access to all this data which they surely do then by association they can track you and get a fair idea who it is, you could have course go to extremes to get around this but then if you got nothing to hide why bother?

It's just wrong how they nag and then force, why they want more and more of people, they're already making money.
 
Spied on? Really?

Yeah, really. It doesn't bother some people, like there's a guy on these very Forums who posts pictures of virtually every thing he buys, crazy how much some people want to show the World eh? ;)
 
Sure you can, but to make an account you need to have a mobile and receive a txt code, which no doubt is logged along with your location, if google or anyone else has access to all this data which they surely do then by association they can track you and get a fair idea who it is, you could have course go to extremes to get around this but then if you got nothing to hide why bother?

It's just wrong how they nag and then force, why they want more and more of people, they're already making money.

To be fair I bypassed this with a free O2 sim I got off a deal on HUKD and used a fake name/address. Won't be using for anything else other that spam crap like this, my proper one is GiffGaff.
 
Every so often, YouTube keeps asking me if I want to change from my user name to my real name. Why on earth they want this to happen so much, I have no idea. It's annoying though.
 
Yeah, really. It doesn't bother some people, like there's a guy on these very Forums who posts pictures of virtually every thing he buys, crazy how much some people want to show the World eh? ;)

Just don't see what the huge fuss is about, it's a free service (both youtube and g+) so the last thing on my mind is how my rights may or may not have been infringed because the big G decided to combine their social network aspect into youtube.
 
your android phone requires an account to be useful

Which is where I suspect they got my real name from, which they now display on my Google page if I'm logged in and which they will not allow me to bloody change! I know for a fact that I haven't given it to them via any of the Google services on my PC, as I don't give any personal information out on the internet to any sites and I don't have a Google+ or Facebook account.
 
I flashed my Tablet yesterday and google play asked me to join google+ which i found a bit OTT but i really dont care as much as OP. I guess you could miss it if you skip through very fast but it does give the NO option on all of these.
 
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