Work Xmas eve... but no pay

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

Here is the exact email...


In light of this we will be looking to offer support on xmas eve as we do on a bank holiday (8-3 at double time).



From:
Sent:
To:
Subject: Christmas and New Year opening hours

With the festive season rapidly approaching I wanted to let you know as soon as possible what the UK business operating hours will be this year. As many of you will be aware, the UK offices will be closed on the following bank holidays over the Christmas and New Year period:

• Christmas Day, Tuesday 25th December 2012
• Boxing Day, Wednesday 26th December 2012
• New Years' Day, Tuesday 1st January 2013

In addition to the above I am also now delighted to confirm that everyone working in the UK will be entitled to an additional one and a half extra days' holiday; details as follows:

• Christmas Eve, Monday 24th December 2012, the UK offices will be closed
• New Years' Eve, Monday 31st December 2012, the UK offices will close early at 1.00 p.m.

Please note that you are not required to book this extra time as part of your contractual holiday entitlement. However, if you wish take the morning of the 31st December 2012 as holiday, you will be required to book a half day's holiday via the firm's normal holiday booking process. Normal operating hours will exist at all other times. You will understand that, as we are closing all day Christmas Eve, we will not be closing early on Friday 21 December too.

The ****** team and ****** would like to thank you all for your efforts this year and wish you a refreshing and well deserved break over the holiday period. We hope that our arrangements for the Christmas and New Year holiday will ensure that you can all enjoy the festive season to the full with family and friends.

Best wishes

But who offered and when were you offered the time off in lieu, overtime etc

 

[weringo]

Pretty much this.

It is a normal day, most people worked. Most people don't ever have the opertunity for overpay, even if they work 60hours seek every week.

What other people in the world did on Christmas Eve could not be less relevant to this discussion.

The company agreed gave OP Christmas Eve off, the company then agreed to pay OP double time for working Christmas Eve, therefore OP is due the wages the company agreed to.

 

[Guest2]

First two lines came from our team leader, the main email came from the ceo

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

First two lines came from our team leader, the main email came from the ceo

Forward back to team leader (who I assume at the end of the day is deemed to be your manager to all intents and purposes) with your overtime sheet and say "sort it" basically.

Its his issue not yours, you have in writing that it would be double time, at the end of the day the person making the call was him, if hes got it wrong thats not your issue.

I would say that counts as a legally binding email.

 

[Amleto]

1. Send an email to your hr/ceo and quote the email that mentions the terms that you accepted.
2. Attach an image of an employment tribunal form (ET1, apparently).
3. ???
4. Profit

 

[One]

1. Send an email to your hr/ceo and quote the email that mentions the terms that you accepted.
2. Attach an image of an employment tribunal form (ET1, apparently).
3. ???
4. Profit

You don't want to start making enemies. A threatening letter like that is not going to help him in the long run.

 

[Resident]

You mad bro?

Not at all. I was actually scheduled Xmas eve off. I chose to swap with a colleague who has kids so she could spend more time with them.

With regards to the email:

First two lines? I see only one, Am I missing something?

 

[MrMoonX]

send the email to HR and say you got it wrong read this, if they dont pay you have it in writing and can take further action

 

[FoxEye]

I've never received a higher rate of pay for working the 24th. Most people do work the 24th, and most people acknowledge it's just a normal working day.

 

[Mercenary Keyboard Warrior]

I've never received a higher rate of pay for working the 24th. Most people do work the 24th, and most people acknowledge it's just a normal working day.

Whats normal means nothing, different people, companies, shifts, etc etc all work differently.

There was an offer, which he considered, and then accepted.

Thats legally binding as it meets all the required parts to create a legally binding contract.

A manager/supervisor etc is deemed to be acting within their authority unless its clear that they are not. Its quite possible it had been agreed above that level it would be double time and hence at an extreme push would be supported by a court of law.

If it had said 20X pay then it clearly would have been questionable, double time is hardly anything special, after just giving people the time off that lots of people are likely to want its hardly unfeasible to offer double time.

 

[Guest2]

Our team leader also worked so wants the money as much as us

Thinking about it whether its wise to annoy people for the sake of about £150 or take 2 days lieu and leave it with them knowing they did us.

The company is a global law firm so not a good idea threatening with an image or whatever!

 

[FutileBreadMachine]

Go up to someone in HR on Monday and demand the money, then go straight to your boxing stance.

 

[Muffherwell]

Put in a grievance to HR. Include the terms you agreed to work Christmas Eve, and the changed terms you have now been notified of.

If the others who worked Christmas eve also agree that double time and a day in lieu were the agreed terms, put in a group grievance, and get each of them to sign it (and anyone else who may not have worked it, but knew of the agreed pay rate and lieu day that are happy to sign it).