No its not. NON essentials should NEVER be taken into account when calculating what benefits should be given.
If people dont want to live on bare essentials then they should get the ***** off benefits.
lower benefits for Northerners and longer school days
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No its not. NON essentials should NEVER be taken into account when calculating what benefits should be given.
If people dont want to live on bare essentials then they should get the ***** off benefits.
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They're called benefit cheats and work cash in hand, deal, trade on ebay, etc, etc
There are many ways to earn money in this country. To have all your bills paid for you and then be free 24/7 to earn any disposable income is what half benefit claimants are upto.
I have no idea how they do it, and don't particularly fancy asking as I doubt they'd respond favorably. The majority I've encountered have several children and no savings whatsoever which perhaps entitles them to more than you were receiving?
Now that we agree on, but cost of living does very massively by region, I think people have got stuck on the north grabbing headline, that is not the purposals.
The purposals is to pay each part of the country, including the south the same spending power.
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Probably, Of course I'm single young man etc. I guess in that sense if people are doing that then I am annoyed.... but on JSA really I had to stop buying nicer/healthier food which sucks. Lived on bags of pasta and eggs
How can the cost of things like books, clothes, Socialising ect be taken into account when books/clothes are the same price just some people buy more?
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Yeah they need to really get tough on people who do that, benefit fraud is just a **** take and abuse of a system which is meant to help people...
Tosh, that has taken into account things for student needs that do not equate to the normal cost of living.
they also need to get tough on corporate tax dodgers, but that aint gonna happen whilst they keep making political donations, benefit fraud is very low compared to tax fraud, yet the daily mail dont shout about it, hmmm wonder why
Im not saying benefit fraud should be ignored, but it doesnt deserve all the attention from the media, when fatcats are doing much much worse with their taxes
they also need to get tough on corporate tax dodgers, but that aint gonna happen whilst they keep making political donations, benefit fraud is very low compared to tax fraud, yet the daily mail dont shout about it, hmmm wonder why
Im not saying benefit fraud should be ignored, but it doesnt deserve all the attention from the media, when fatcats are doing much much worse with their taxes
Excellent post.
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they also need to get tough on corporate tax dodgers, but that aint gonna happen whilst they keep making political donations, benefit fraud is very low compared to tax fraud, yet the daily mail dont shout about it, hmmm wonder why
Im not saying benefit fraud should be ignored, but it doesnt deserve all the attention from the media, when fatcats are doing much much worse with their taxes
Very good post, very true aswell.
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I deal with them everyday. Things are changing and a lot of people are in for a real shock, such as 3 year sanctions on their benefits. The problem is the changes only catch out people who are genuinely honest about things. The hardcore benefit cheats very rarely get caught, they know how to play the system.
What is appalling is how long these changes have taken to happen. They always have to wait until it's too late.
And yet more differences
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...may-reflect-regional-living-costs-735701.html
Unfortunately this isn't by recall enough regions, but shows that things do differ in price.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/cpi/r...ce-levels-for-goods-and-services-for-2010.pdf
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...may-reflect-regional-living-costs-735701.html
Unfortunately this isn't by recall enough regions, but shows that things do differ in price.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/cpi/r...ce-levels-for-goods-and-services-for-2010.pdf
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Find quite a lot of these changes quite sickening and out of touch and almost certainly from someone(s) who has had a privileged life. Coming down hard on those with less money and having less impact (i.e. changes to retirement age) on those from wealth.
Increasing school hours will take away a lot of what it means to be young and personally I find it appalling even callus to suggest it - I would be behind measures tho to provide more extra-curricular support for 1-2 hours after the normal closing time for gifted students, those with an interest in specific subjects outside of whats feasible for mainstream teaching, etc. might have changed from when I was young but there used to be very little in that regard i.e. my IT teacher noticed myself and a couple of others had an interest in computing above anything the school could provide and took it on himself to provide us with extra access to the computer labs, bit of an introduction to programming, networking, etc. none of which the school could support itself and came out of his own time and pocket.
Increasing school hours will take away a lot of what it means to be young and personally I find it appalling even callus to suggest it - I would be behind measures tho to provide more extra-curricular support for 1-2 hours after the normal closing time for gifted students, those with an interest in specific subjects outside of whats feasible for mainstream teaching, etc. might have changed from when I was young but there used to be very little in that regard i.e. my IT teacher noticed myself and a couple of others had an interest in computing above anything the school could provide and took it on himself to provide us with extra access to the computer labs, bit of an introduction to programming, networking, etc. none of which the school could support itself and came out of his own time and pocket.
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This is where most of the money is going down the drain. Those at the top who dodge paying taxes are "stealing" billions of pounds out of the coffers.they also need to get tough on corporate tax dodgers, but that aint gonna happen whilst they keep making political donations, benefit fraud is very low compared to tax fraud, yet the daily mail dont shout about it, hmmm wonder why
Im not saying benefit fraud should be ignored, but it doesnt deserve all the attention from the media, when fatcats are doing much much worse with their taxes
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Maybe the Londoner moaning about this should move to Newcastle if they feel that strongly?
Why get rid of the min wage?
And since the majority of benefits get spent on people who are in work, how will abolishing them help? - especially when combined with your first stupid suggestion to allow employers to pay even less then they do now...