They are the same architecture, but the 6870 had 1120 Stream Processors while the 5770 had only 800.
The 5870 had 1600 Stream Processing Units, go figure.... lol
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They are the same architecture, but the 6870 had 1120 Stream Processors while the 5770 had only 800.
The 5870 had 1600 Stream Processing Units, go figure.... lol
Any chance of a bios working on my 7970 to actually make it read as 8970 in the bios because I could sell it as an 8970 to command a price from stupids if I can source an 8970 front panel sticker or simply remove my sticker and say it's oem.......maybe get a cheap third party cooler.......I've got some oem looking full length boxes from the gtx280s i had before. We could all do this! No 7970 will fail at those clock speeds.
They are the same architecture, but the 6870 had 1120 Stream Processors while the 5770 had only 800.
The 5870 had 1600 Stream Processing Units, go figure.... lol
That's because the 5870 was their top single GPU part. The 6870 was second tier. Same name - different tiers. That was more my point.
naughty!
FleaBay is full of idiots.
yes.....not like anyone nice from here would buy it so it's ok. Plus it basically would be an 8970 when the bios is changed and a third party cooler added. God knows how you would tell, the manufacture date isn't on the pcb. Don't know why they didn't just up clocks to 1300 and sell them as 8970s instead with some binned cards. Probably just stock clearing.
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They are the same architecture, but the 6870 had 1120 Stream Processors while the 5770 had only 800.
The 5870 had 1600 Stream Processing Units, go figure.... lol
They weren't the same architecture. Last generation was someway between what we have now and the generation before.
Well, no it's not okay and that would be fraud.
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We're expecting more in the line of efficiency and die size saving than massive increase in size and power under the same process. Ultimately we're getting caught up in 20nm release dates being unclear and quantities available being unclear. More work will go into the next gpu on 20nm than a rehash at 28nm, if they can get capacity on 20nm early(sounds like Apple is going all out to nab it ALL and according to most of the world Apple's dollars are worth more than everyone elses 
) then maybe that will be under a year and wasting vast money redoing 28nm parts is just a waste.
Ultimately there were hints this would be GCN 2.0, but then again I would think their teams have been heavily invested in console projects in the past 2 years meaning quite probably less time and money to devote to a 28nm rehash.
I think they could likely find a sweet spot in making a 7870 with higher memory bus, clocked to within an inch of its life and whacking loads more rops/shaders on it. The power and die space for the 384bit bus hurts the card in comparison to the 680gtx, though clearly makes it WAY faster at higher resolutions. Theres also a chance they could take out some redundancy for the process as its more mature and fit in a few more shaders and increase the die size slightly.... again if they have time to do that, who knows.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if its too early for a proper GCN 2.0, think Bulldozer>Piledriver>Steamroller, 1.0>1.1>2.0 , little fixes can be added quickly, bigger rethinks and massive changes take time and with the other projects I would think 20nm parts for GCN 2.0.
We'll see, OEM branding is BEYOND nuts and shouldn't be read into Nvidia/AMD sell weird OEM parts worldwide and weird ones only for places like Russia where the naming doesn't make sense to anyone who has a brain. Those could be the final specs, they could be entirely different. When the launch Sea-islands, we'll know.
EDIT:- didn't AMD bring on the ex Nvidia sales guy recently.... would explain a lot
new high end to "skip" a generation and be 9xxx parts 
) then maybe that will be under a year and wasting vast money redoing 28nm parts is just a waste.Ultimately there were hints this would be GCN 2.0, but then again I would think their teams have been heavily invested in console projects in the past 2 years meaning quite probably less time and money to devote to a 28nm rehash.
I think they could likely find a sweet spot in making a 7870 with higher memory bus, clocked to within an inch of its life and whacking loads more rops/shaders on it. The power and die space for the 384bit bus hurts the card in comparison to the 680gtx, though clearly makes it WAY faster at higher resolutions. Theres also a chance they could take out some redundancy for the process as its more mature and fit in a few more shaders and increase the die size slightly.... again if they have time to do that, who knows.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if its too early for a proper GCN 2.0, think Bulldozer>Piledriver>Steamroller, 1.0>1.1>2.0 , little fixes can be added quickly, bigger rethinks and massive changes take time and with the other projects I would think 20nm parts for GCN 2.0.
We'll see, OEM branding is BEYOND nuts and shouldn't be read into Nvidia/AMD sell weird OEM parts worldwide and weird ones only for places like Russia where the naming doesn't make sense to anyone who has a brain. Those could be the final specs, they could be entirely different. When the launch Sea-islands, we'll know.
EDIT:- didn't AMD bring on the ex Nvidia sales guy recently.... would explain a lot
new high end to "skip" a generation and be 9xxx parts
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Please fix misleading title
Atleast the new 8900's will save me some money. Having owned 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 7xxx series cards, I certainly won't be buying one of these. NVidia and AMD may see the writing is on the wall for PC Gaming, and now concentrate their efforts elsewhere. Maybe I'll buy a PS4 instead.
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PC gaming has died many deaths.
HD7xxx series is still the priority, music to my ears.
Good, no need to rush Sea Islands, the current crop is doing very well.
the die is with Nvidia, let them throw it.
ya - jf amd and the whole amd marketing team during bulldozer really put me off their cpus and their whole approach.
I used to like amd as a underdog but didnt like the whole lying bit just to try to save face ...
bleh ya just bought a 7950 here and tired of upgrading
least for 6 months
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I do love how the OEM's want to misguide the new buyers.