The difference between loving and liking your parents

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My parents travelled over to visit my mrs' family over the new year, and to be honest I found them to be really embarrasing and a p.i.t.a from start to finish.

My Dad just basically let them pay for everything (even though my parents are quite financially comfortable) and my mrs's parents not so much. He always seems to say the wrong thing, gets excessively emotional, and loves telling stories which bore me half to death. I love him but honestly I think we are so different they must have swapped babies in the hospital or something.

Me and my lady contributed a lot, buying the kids lots of presents (even a scaletrics set 'from my parents' which was a good job as my 'dears' didn't bother getting them any), a load of fireworks, food and drink, etc.

My mother is basically a manic depressive, and decided to go in a mood for two whole days at the click of her fingers, she had a face like a slapped arse on her.

After the visit we left and didnt speak to my parents on the phone,and they didn't call. So a week later I decided to call them, only to get an absolute earfull off the both of them for being an awful disrespectful son and generally a bad person. I don't see it this way at all and basically they have been like this since I was a boy so I'd like to say it's water off a ducks back even though that might not be completely true. To be honest I'm pretty surprised I'm not a nutter or heroin addict after the childhood I had.

I just let them say their piece, I tried to reason with them about it but they won't listen at all, they never have and even in my late 20's they treat me like a child even though I have a successfull career, have always achieved well in school/college/uni etc.

Now my lady and I are due to have a baby in May I'm a bit worried about how much I wan't them to be involved with our boy. They are both pretty hardcore catholics my mum especially so, and she loves to judge people and stick her oar in at every opportunity.
 
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I'd apologise to your in-laws for your parents' behaviour and try to avoid bringing them together in the future. This way at least your in-laws won't tar you with the same brush and they'll not take their behaviour personally.

Unfortunately for the baby, they are it's grandparents and I'd say the grandparents have a right to see it. Guess you'll just have to live with it and make your excuses where you can.
 
I'd apologise to your in-laws for your parents' behaviour and try to avoid bringing them together in the future. This way at least your in-laws won't tar you with the same brush and they'll not take their behaviour personally.

Unfortunately for the baby, they are it's grandparents and I'd say the grandparents have a right to see it. Guess you'll just have to live with it and make your excuses where you can.

Yeah fair enough, the in-laws are fantastic to be fair, brilliant grandparents to Marina's nieces and nephews so I'm really happy about that.

I think my parents are regressing into senile child like behaviour the older they get

One is illegal the other is natural lol

touche'
 
The difference between liking and loving someone is simple but you'll only find out when they die.

If you feel bad FOR them (or their relatives friends) then you just 'like' that person. But if YOU feel bad when it happens then you loved them.

And yes blokes that does mean you'll have to admit that you love some of your male friends (and no that isn't 'gay' although I suspect we'll get some teenage posters saying it is).
 
The difference between liking and loving someone is simple but you'll only find out when they die.

If you feel bad FOR them (or their relatives friends) then you just 'like' that person. But if YOU feel bad when it happens then you loved them.

And yes blokes that does mean you'll have to admit that you love some of your male friends (and no that isn't 'gay' although I suspect we'll get some teenage posters saying it is).

Yes but you can love someone and not like them. As I find with my parents.
 
Ouch. Sounds like a bummer man.

I've been going out with my girlfriend for coming up to five years next month. My parents and her Mum (her Dad sadly passed away a few years before we got together) have only met ONCE for a total of literally about a minute and thirty seconds.

They could barely be more different to my (hopefully future) Mother in Law - both they and her being lovely imo but at very different ends of the political/class spectrum, or rather coming from different ends...

I do dread it. The longer it goes on the more I want to force some kind of meeting on all sides but I doubt it will before we (hopefully some point in the next year or two) get engaged.

It sounds like you've got a fairly good emotional handle on the issues between you and your parents and you seem to be the mature party given that you didn't mouth off at them at the time, and eventually called them up rather than let things stew. I guess my advice would be to do as the first poster said and apologies to you In-Laws and give it a bit of time.

I don't think anyone has a right to be involved in your child's life, that's entirely your decision. What I wouldn't do is wield access like a cudgel in the first instance. Just try and stay level headed and hopefully they will come to see your side, even if they don't 100% agree with you on everything.
 
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Now my lady and I are due to have a baby in May I'm a bit worried about how much I wan't them to be involved with our boy. They are both pretty hardcore catholics my mum especially so, and she loves to judge people and stick her oar in at every opportunity.

I suggest you allow them to occasionally see the child but let them know, tactfully but firmly, exactly what involvement they are to have. If they don't like it, tough. They're your son/daughter and this is your family.

Of course wait for a few opinions first as I have not had a "complete" family growing up and will have some bias.
 
I suggest you allow them to occasionally see the child but let them know, tactfully but firmly, exactly what involvement they are to have. If they don't like it, tough. They're your son/daughter and this is your family.

Of course wait for a few opinions first as I have not had a "complete" family growing up and will have some bias.


I agree with this, I don't like the idea of my kids spending whole weeks with them if we are not there, because of some of the things they might say. Also my Dad can't seem to get to lunchtime without having his first beer of the day (he hasn't had a day off the sauce since before I was born), and him and my mother argue constantly and are always raising their voices, so not the healthiest environment really.
 
I've often thought about this - some people seem to have a friend-like relationship with their parents, but for lots of people, once they grow into adults there are fundamental differences of opinion and / or behaviour that make this impossible.
 
They are both pretty hardcore catholics my mum especially so, and she loves to judge people and stick her oar in at every opportunity.

Religion poisens everything. You can't reason with the unreasonable and irrational. In my experience, people who are willing and able to believe just about anything, based on no evidence what so ever, are at best, credulous and more often, simply pernicious. To have such people as your parents must have been (excuse the pun) hell. I empathise with you and hope you can use your superior secular morality to be the bigger man in all of this. They are your parents after all and i'm sure they care deeply about you in their own misguided way, but you're a man now and so when they cross a line you need to let them know, whatever the consequences.
 
Unfortunately for the baby, they are it's grandparents and I'd say the grandparents have a right to see it. Guess you'll just have to live with it and make your excuses where you can.

No they don't.

It's probably the done thing but it's hardly a right.
 
Religion poisens everything. You can't reason with the unreasonable and irrational. In my experience, people who are willing and able to believe just about anything, based on no evidence what so ever, are at best, credulous and more often, simply pernicious. To have such people as your parents must have been (excuse the pun) hell. I empathise with you and hope you can use your superior secular morality to be the bigger man in all of this. They are your parents after all and i'm sure they care deeply about you in their own misguided way, but you're a man now and so when they cross a line you need to let them know, whatever the consequences.

I'm not saying I dont believe in God or whatever, but I just think they do so much on the worshipping front and very little in terms of trying to be good nice friendly positive people.

Yes, growing up was very difficult.
 
I've often thought about this - some people seem to have a friend-like relationship with their parents, but for lots of people, once they grow into adults there are fundamental differences of opinion and / or behaviour that make this impossible.

This is impossible with my parents, because they are so set in their ways, and seem to have this opinion that because they are my parents nothing is ever equal, they are the masters and therefore my opinion doesnt count.
 
They should still see your child, no doubt about that. However, the second they try to tell you how to do anything you lay down the law.

Just don't use the child as a pawn.
 
Oh WaaWaaWaa!

"My parents are well off, I take offence that they don't spend their money when they were invited to stay somewhere; how dare they raise me with little financial worries then tell stories I find boring to poor people."

If you don't like your parents you are not obliged to have a relationship with them if you don't like them.
 
This is impossible with my parents, because they are so set in their ways, and seem to have this opinion that because they are my parents nothing is ever equal, they are the masters and therefore my opinion doesnt count.

Yeah, I know what you mean (although I don't have anywhere near as much trouble with my parents). All you can do I think is manage the situation as best as you can - you love them so you want them to be part of your life, but they're difficult people so you don't want them to negatively influence your life and relationships. Hopefully you can find a balance that works...
 
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