Winter Tyre

[TW]Fox;23544073 said:
Shows what you know, once the temp hits 6.995 c then all summer tyres become identical in performance and are a hazard. A non specific graph told me.

Plus it's common sense innit, it's winter and they say winter on them. Duh.
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I agree with the sentiment.

I'm not the biggest advocate of riding motorbikes in the snow and ice, because doing it for a while was one of the things that kept driving me on to get my car license sorted.

But If I can get to work down 11 miles of un gritted fen road in the snow, on a CBR 1000F without falling over, then people can get to Tescos when its +4 in their civic without a problem.
 
[TW]Fox;23544005 said:
It's been 10c daytime in Bath for weeks, it only got cold again yesterday. Yet you have been 'Impressed' with them.....?
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Can't beat a good placebo.

The winter tyres phenomenon is a particularly curious one, it seems to snare people that you'd hope would overlook them.

They're also being marketed as essential to have even in non-snowy conditions- I've seen the advert you allude to that suggests they should be used in temperatures below 7 degrees C, yet until around 2010/2011 I don't recall seeing adverts of this kind, so we've managed well enough since the 1880's.
 
fadetoblack said:
Please explain your years of Experience in saying winter Tyres are just a Marketing scam?



O wait you don't have any..... Jog on :-)
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Such an angry stance to take over something so trivial.

My driving experience is nearly 21 years on the road, 20 of which I've probably averaged around 50k a year for, in all weathers, on standard tyres, in the uk, on motorbikes, in cars, in Vans, in 7.5 tonne and Class 2 lorries, through almost every part of the UK is my experience of not needing winter tyres.

Never needed them, never got stuck, never crashed into anyone so I dont know what else to say.

The past couple of years has seen a marked increase in the advertising of winter tyres, 5 years ago, we wouldnt be having this conversation.
 
Any winter tyre test that features a summer tyre. It's because aquaplane resistance is largely down to tread pattern and the sort of pattern that shifts loads of water tends to be poor in snow so won't be found on a winter tyre.
 
[TW]Fox;23543363 said:
this year we have had far more flooding than snow.
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...so?

This year alaska has had more snow than flooding...

why does the weather in some random location where you happen to be effect my tyre choice?
 
Hi there

In the UK you need a winter tyre not a snow tyre or a top performance summer tyre with good wet performance.

A lot make the mistake of buying cheap winter tyres, problem here is they work good in snow but are terrible in cold wet conditions which is typically what a uk winter is. Even a tyre fitter who fitted Andrew Moores SuperSports this week commented that tyres like contisport 3 and SuperSports which are a summer tyre are better than even good winter tyres at temperatures upto -5c in wet and dry and I'd agree from my personal experiences too.

So If you've got a top summer tyre don't bother unless your expecting plenty of snow and then make sure your buying top brand winter tyres to ensure you've still got good wet performance so Michelin, Conti, Dunlop are safe bets for winter tyres.
 
touch said:
...so?

This year alaska has had more snow than flooding...

why does the weather in some random location where you happen to be effect my tyre choice?
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This is a UK based forum with mostly UK members. The UK as a whole has had more flooding than snow.... Are you just being argumentative for the sake of it?
 
iaind said:
This is a UK based forum with mostly UK members. The UK as a whole has had more flooding than snow.... Are you just being argumentative for the sake of it?
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I'm not being intentionally argumentative, i'm just trying to point out that the UK is a big place and not all of it experiences the same weather at the same time.
In fact, there are a lot of parts of the uk that have had more snow than flooding as well.
Some of the people on here telling me that winter tyres are pointless live closer to Spain than they do to me.
 
I think it's fairly obvious most of the sentiment in this thread is not aimed at people for whom the nearest city is Inverness.
 
I love a winter tyre thread . The same people who criticise anything but a top performance tyre and are willing to take any old unscientifc tyre test as gospel will be doing the complete opposite . Strange yet entertaining
 
majnu said:
Source?
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I've driven extensively on winter tyres and can confirm this.
Treads are much deeper and don't disperse water anywhere near as well.

Sure, when it's cold the softer compound is better v hard summer tyres, but in standing water in warmer temps, I'd rather be with a summer tyre.
 
"andy" said:
I love a winter tyre thread . The same people who criticise anything but a top performance tyre and are willing to take any old unscientifc tyre test as gospel will be doing the complete opposite .
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I like the fact that if you ask for opinions on a summer tyre, people throw all sorts of numbers at you for braking distances, etc. Then when it comes to winter tyres, the only thing that matters is not getting stuck and if you want any more performance than that (like being able to stop, etc) you're falling for their "marketing".
 
Because you adopt a completely different driving style in adverse conditions, which you don't typically do the rest of the year, when speeds will be higher. Plus going for a better tyre for 10 months of the year over a poorer one doesnt mean buying a whole new set, its just a marginal upgrade cost. There is no doubt that on a few days a year (and I am not talking just about snow) when it obviously will offer better performance but by a big enough margin and often enough to easily justify a whole new set of tyres? In some places, ie high ground, perhaps. In most suburban locations, motorways etc? No.

Answer this - why did nobody care 6+ years ago? Only the people who really needed em even knew about them.
 
I think I'll stick to what I have then, but then there has never really been a Summer last year from what I can remember, just the odd heat wave, but apart from that it's been pretty cold. So do you think it's wise keeping winter tyres on all year round?
 
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