US employee outsources his job to China

anything I don't mind · 16 Jan 2013 at 20:27

They employed him for the results that they expect him to have based on his skills. If those skills include knowing the right people to complete a task, maybe that was where the good results came from all a long.

s0ck · 16 Jan 2013 at 20:29

"Evidence even suggested he had the same scam going across multiple companies in the area."

Not really a scam though, is it?

The employee no longer worked at the firm, Mr Valentine said.

Doesn't actually say they fired him either.

Pestilence · 16 Jan 2013 at 20:41

Well at least he displayed some delegation skills.

Mr-White · 16 Jan 2013 at 20:55

When I read this at work, I bet everyone like me was thinking of ways you could out source your job

MW

Crizzy · 16 Jan 2013 at 20:56

groen said:
They employed him for the results that they expect him to have based on his skills. If those skills include knowing the right people to complete a task, maybe that was where the good results came from all a long.

No it's fraud. Clever, but still fraud.

Judgeneo · 16 Jan 2013 at 20:59

groen said:
They employed him for the results that they expect him to have based on his skills. If those skills include knowing the right people to complete a task, maybe that was where the good results came from all a long.

Maybe, but the problem with this is one of security and trust. The Chinese company wouldn't have been vetted.

anything I don't mind · 16 Jan 2013 at 21:00

I can agree some what that it is dishonest, but only because he was not up front about it and that he gave out unauthorised access, which is fire able offence by itself. I do not think it could be considered fraud because he was still giving the customer value for money.

Why would you not consider it to be fraud if you hired a builder to build an extension and then a plumber rocks up with plumbing labels on his van from another company than the building company. You ask the guy who is this and he says it is the plumber i have hired to complete the task you paid me for.

No1newts · 16 Jan 2013 at 21:21

Impressive but how does the reporter know he "watched cat videos on YouTube" learning from the Fail that reporter is with some pointless embellishment

dowie · 16 Jan 2013 at 21:24

malfunkshun said:
just read this, then saw it here
Genius, they think he was also working for other companies, 'out-sourcing' and making a couple of hundred thousand per year

unless they make his name public he might still be working for other companies....

SMN · 16 Jan 2013 at 21:26

This guy should work for Cisco, they love doing this kind of thing.

Haircut · 16 Jan 2013 at 21:31

I once worked on a project with a guy who was based in Spain most of the time.
We always used to joke that he spent his time at the beach while paying someone else to do his work for him.
Good to see someone got something similar working in practice

cavemanoc · 16 Jan 2013 at 22:25

Sometimes when people are naughty you need to realise their genius and put their skills to better use - wasted talent if they did just sack him!

estebanrey · 16 Jan 2013 at 22:34

Operator Verizon says the scam came to light after the US firm asked it for an audit, suspecting a security breach.

Right so it's a "scam" when an individual does it, but 'sensible cost management' when a company does it.

Russinating · 16 Jan 2013 at 22:39

Legend.

Participant · 16 Jan 2013 at 22:43

Isn't this how IT companies work anyway?

'Harry · 16 Jan 2013 at 23:14

Amazing

Happyhammer7 · 16 Jan 2013 at 23:16

Legend ha ha ha.

Twirlywoos · 16 Jan 2013 at 23:22

how is it a scam? he got the work done. Guys a genius!!!

Biohazard · 16 Jan 2013 at 23:25

kitkat9933 said:
Made me chuckle today in the office today. Surely the IT admin team would have notice him going on Reddit, Youtube and Ebay all day.

We monitor our staff to make sure they are working properly, so for him to get away with it for so long was defiantly him getting lucky.

Who watches the watchmen??!?

I hope you sack yourself. :mad:

Raumarik · 16 Jan 2013 at 23:36

kitkat9933 said:
Made me chuckle today in the office today. Surely the IT admin team would have notice him going on Reddit, Youtube and Ebay all day.

We monitor our staff to make sure they are working properly, so for him to get away with it for so long was defiantly him getting lucky.

It's not luck, developers as with most IT staff know ways around monitoring tools or have backdoor accounts to permit them unfettered access to systems, heck most use service accounts as these rarely have passwords changed and few people know them - so they tend to be forgotten. You are kidding yourself if you think IT/devs can't and don't breach systems regularly.

Literally dozens of ways of getting around any system, what does amaze me is that he actually turned up to work to pretend to work, I'd be bored silly not having SOMETHING to do all day but sat in the office!