13.3?
I mean 13.2-
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13.2 Beta Drivers Leaked :)
- Thread starter shankly1985
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I mean 13.2
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This is a great test outcome for ATI users, I read the first test when they didnt do so well just as I was buying my HD7950 and im glad I stuck with it, this is coming from a long line of Nvidia cards.
Its ok found this link http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/amd_catalyst_13_2_beta_download.html
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I'm hearing rumours that the 7950 TechReport used in the 'infamous' review was actually faulty.
I only skimmed through it but would AMD have provided the new beta drivers to fix it in that case?
Our report on this driver was delayed by a couple of factors, including our attendance at CES and an apparent incompatibility between this beta driver and our Sapphire 7950 card.
We still haven't figured out the problem with the Sapphire card, but we ultimately switched to a different 7950, the MSI R7950 OC, which allowed us to test the new driver. The results on the following pages come from the MSI card.
http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times
Discussion elsewhere about it
http://www.overclock.net/t/1350380/13-2b-drivers-solve-frame-latency-problems/10#post_19083338
Don't know how much truth there is in it, but there you go.
Are they 'completely' unbiased though? I tested Skyrim myself, largely because my own experience didn't match the video TR posted, and it was fine;
So what's the explanation for that? I'm finding it more and more difficult to trust any of these 'tech' sites as continually my own experience (and what I see other users reporting in forums) with hardware is not what they are reporting. Still, the response from AMD suggests they still found an issue so that can only be a good thing.
It also raises more questions for me. Like where is the TR article looking at the messy frame times in BF3 (potentially other games too?) on Nvidia (specifically a 660ti) that we've seen users post? And how come they think the 7950 goes up against a 660ti anyway, when there's people around posting stuff that shows the 7870 is the card that competes very favorably with the 660ti?
AMD's biggest problem for me is it's PR machine, it's clearly no where near as effective, or possibly aggressive, as Nvidia's.
So what's the explanation for that? I'm finding it more and more difficult to trust any of these 'tech' sites as continually my own experience (and what I see other users reporting in forums) with hardware is not what they are reporting. Still, the response from AMD suggests they still found an issue so that can only be a good thing.
It also raises more questions for me. Like where is the TR article looking at the messy frame times in BF3 (potentially other games too?) on Nvidia (specifically a 660ti) that we've seen users post? And how come they think the 7950 goes up against a 660ti anyway, when there's people around posting stuff that shows the 7870 is the card that competes very favorably with the 660ti?
AMD's biggest problem for me is it's PR machine, it's clearly no where near as effective, or possibly aggressive, as Nvidia's.
See above Wolvers, there are rumours going around that TR's 7950 was faulty.
This is what I was trying to point out to captain clueless the other day (weehamish) when he was making silly claims again about how TR have proven him right.
Some people just won't accept that TR's findings aren't absolute and happen for everyone.
This is what I was trying to point out to captain clueless the other day (weehamish) when he was making silly claims again about how TR have proven him right.
Some people just won't accept that TR's findings aren't absolute and happen for everyone.
That looks to be what you'd expect on average Greg. The vast majority of the frames are rendered very similar intervals.
A few large spikes like his won't be very noticeable if at all and don't indicate that there is an issue.
Frame spikes like that can happen due things loading into memory and so on.
If you compare his graph to the TR ones you'll see a massive difference.
A few large spikes like his won't be very noticeable if at all and don't indicate that there is an issue.
Frame spikes like that can happen due things loading into memory and so on.
If you compare his graph to the TR ones you'll see a massive difference.
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Its a good point actually, things popping up on screen like mission objectives and stuff cause spikes like that, ive noticed that myself on several different games through my own testing.
Fair enough. I need to do some frame times with these 310.90 drivers to see if I get the same. They feel horrid to me in BF3 and Far Cry 3, so possibly Nvidia are prone to this frame latency issue.
I will run a game I consider smooth and compare to a game I don't and compare.
Yep, it's reasons like this that reviews often do three runs per benchmark and then take the average, because spikes/dips like that are impossible to completely predict and control.
Well take Farcry as an example as I know you've been having smoothness issues with it .
If you did a frame time graph, those sort of spikes would much more frequent and would show a spike every second or so.
Basically with frame times, the closer to a straight line the graph is on average, the smoother or more consistent the frames rendered. So in a completely ideal situation, a game running at 60hz with vsync would be a perfect straight line.
Recorded 5 mins of frame times with fraps but a little confused on what I am looking at.
Frame, Time (ms)
1, 0.000
2, 9.295
3, 21.256
4, 32.637
5, 43.977
6, 53.840
7, 62.980
8, 71.485
9, 82.962
10, 91.938
11, 101.128
12, 111.264
Any help please?
Frame, Time (ms)
1, 0.000
2, 9.295
3, 21.256
4, 32.637
5, 43.977
6, 53.840
7, 62.980
8, 71.485
9, 82.962
10, 91.938
11, 101.128
12, 111.264
Any help please?
Download this. http://sourceforge.net/projects/frafsbenchview/files/latest/download
Drag the fraps frametimes.csv file from the benchmark folder into frafs.
