Guitar Evaluation

Slyman2k4 · 19 Jan 2013 at 13:12

I rarely post topics of this nature any more, usually if I can't find myself I just leave it from too much hassle. But I am trying to help someone out here.

Is there any reputable places where one can get a guitar evaluated, or does anyone know anything about em?

Cheers.

Nitefly · 19 Jan 2013 at 13:20

There are plenty of people here who know about guitars.

Tell us the make, model and year / serial number

Obviously, the condition may effect its value.

Slyman2k4 · 19 Jan 2013 at 13:25

Gibson Les Paul Standard 2001, SN 91552XXX.

Obviously hidden the last three digits. Don't know much about guitars and I have trust issues

Pestilence · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:13

Genuine Gibson? Circa £1k depending on condition I'd say.

Nitefly · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:32

Pestilence said:
Genuine Gibson? Circa £1k depending on condition I'd say.

That's probably the right ball park. Also depends how desirable the colour / burst effect (if applicable) is.

dirtychinchilla · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:33

I think that's a fair estimate but it will also depend on whether any of the hardware has been upgraded and whether any modification has been done to it.

Nitefly · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:36

IIRC, this was also back in the day when the standards also came with the scratch plate. I think they started hollowing the bodies around this time too to make them lighter.

arctine · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:42

Nitefly said:
IIRC, this was also back in the day when the standards also came with the scratch plate. I think they started hollowing the bodies around this time too to make them lighter.

I thought standards always came with a scratch plate?

2001 is not a particularly relevant year for Gibson. In fact, it was either then or not long after that people started questioning their quality control.

Nitefly · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:45

arctine said:
I thought standards always came with a scratch plate?

2001 is not a particularly relevant year for Gibson. In fact, it was either then or not long after that people started questioning their quality control.

They started removing the scratch plate around that time for a more contemporary look. The classic series still has it though.

4T5 · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:48

I would have said more like 800 quid without pics & a better description. It's only a 2001 Standard after all.

SexyGreyFox · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:50

I sold my 1996 Gibson Les Paul Standard for £850 last year (or was it the year before?) and that was a good price.
This was the guitar - http://www.disturbinthepeace.co.uk/mistreatedpics/mistreated jolly tar 6.jpg

arctine · 19 Jan 2013 at 14:52

Nitefly said:
They started removing the scratch plate around that time for a more contemporary look. The classic series still has it though.

I didn't know that.

It's only two screws two remove the scratch plate if people don't want to keep it though, why didn't they just leave it on?

OminousLatinNoun · 19 Jan 2013 at 15:27

arctine said:
I didn't know that.

It's only two screws two remove the scratch plate if people don't want to keep it though, why didn't they just leave it on?

Don't you tend to get discoloration after the scratchplate has been on for a while?

Edit - this could just be acoustics.

arctine · 19 Jan 2013 at 15:39

OminousLatinNoun said:
Don't you tend to get discoloration after the scratchplate has been on for a while?

Edit - this could just be acoustics.

No? mine has never discoloured due to the scratchplate.

I go through phases of keeping it on and taking it off. Acoustics wise, no, I don't think so

Scrutinize · 19 Jan 2013 at 15:40

Slyman2k4 said:
I rarely post topics of this nature any more, usually if I can't find myself I just leave it from too much hassle. But I am trying to help someone out here.

Is there any reputable places where one can get a guitar evaluated, or does anyone know anything about em?

Cheers.

If for insurance purposes then Market Value for new replacement which is circa £1.5 - £1.8k.

The second hand market has nose dived for late 90s early to mid 00s Gibsons at the moment. There are lots of them, there is nothing overly special about the standards and people don't seem to want to spend money.

An AA/AAA top 2009/10 standard in pristine condition will only set you back £1k to £1.1k from eBay if you negotiate with the seller to avoid fees.

However, I recall standards only costing £1100 new back then anyway.

Incidentally, Fender Strats were only £599 for the USA ones around the same era, now you are only getting Mexican for the money which, unsurprisingly helps the re-sale slightly on the older USA standards.

Unfortunately for Gibson there is nothing to push up the prices, as new players can buy the Epiphones for still around £300 and the Gibson Studios sell for £400-£600 second hand but as new all day long.

Worth trying the guitar shops as you may get as much money and an easy sale via them.

Slyman2k4 · 19 Jan 2013 at 17:55

Thanks for all the input guys, definitely plenty of food for thought. So from everyones input it could be a gamble of anything from £600-1000? Do these things depreciate with value? It's hardly been used and is in pretty good condition if that helps things.

Comes with a carry case that has a velvet inside (!) and a wee velvet foldover for the front of it.

Thanks again for your time guys, greatly appreciated.

SexyGreyFox · 19 Jan 2013 at 18:10

Slyman2k4 said:
Thanks for all the input guys, definitely plenty of food for thought. So from everyones input it could be a gamble of anything from £600-1000? Do these things depreciate with value? It's hardly been used and is in pretty good condition if that helps things.

£600 is the most I was offered PX in a shop but I can't see it dropping in value.
A bit of advice I was given by Mikey at the Birmingham Guitar Guitar shop is that around August onwards is the golden times because Daddy's have promised sons & daughters nice shiny equipment if they do well in their exams.
My guitar was actually bought by a Consultant who had promised his daughter a Les Paul if she did well.

cm1179 · 19 Jan 2013 at 18:38

Dimple said:
My guitar was actually bought by a Consultant who had promised his daughter a Les Paul if she did well.

does the high possibility the guitar is now probably collecting dust in her bedroom upset you?

SexyGreyFox · 19 Jan 2013 at 18:43

cm1179 said:
does the high possibility the guitar is now probably collecting dust in her bedroom upset you?

I know her guitar teacher and she still goes to him but you are correct for most students.

Slyman2k4 · 20 Jan 2013 at 13:21

Apparently it was a 1992 standard. They got £850 for it, the guy looked pretty stoked so I've got the feeling he got a right bargain lol.