So the moon landing was faked!

gizmoy2k · 21 Jan 2013 at 20:56

Glaucus said:
Video and photos take your pic
http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/video11.html

I know you mean well and im not into this conspiracy...but...

Some of that footage is truely awful quality, if i provided you with that and say omg aliens exist id be laughed off the internet

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1105542.rm

Just picked a ramdom one and my first thought was this plays right into Groens hands

Glaucus · 21 Jan 2013 at 20:56

But you don't know who he is, oh wait.

csmager · 21 Jan 2013 at 20:57

groen said:
Well he is more of an actor than a physicist. I thought he got the job at cern because he was the "famous" actor, rather than the other way around.

Are you confusing Brian Cox the actor with Brian Cox the physicist?!

orderoftheflame · 21 Jan 2013 at 20:58

groen said:
Well he is more of an actor than a physicist. I thought he got the job at cern because he was the "famous" actor, rather than the other way around.

You'd be wrong. Have a read of his qualifications.

Besides, I'm pretty sure CERN aren't in the habit of employing people because of their acting skills...

csmager said:
Are you confusing Brian Cox the actor with Brian Cox the physicist?!

Well, Actor is alphabetically before Physicist on the wiki results page probably.

anything I don't mind · 21 Jan 2013 at 20:59

Then I don't know who he is. How is this relevant, I am guessing he is a big fan of the apollo stories then?

SexyGreyFox · 21 Jan 2013 at 20:59

groen said:
Who is brian cox?

Oh that wannabe physicist on tv.

And now we know he is trolling because nobody can be that much of a Tin Foil Hatter.
Groen is making David Icke look normal.

Blue160 · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:00

groen said:
Then I don't know who he is. How is this relevant, I am guessing he is a big fan of the apollo stories then?

He's a big fan of scientific proof........

Martytoon · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:00

Metalface Mark said:
I think all we are asking is you research both sides and come up with your own conclusions, not found on YouTube, heck if you are interested enough I own every single Apollo astronauts and related employee( like gene kranz and guenter wendt) autobiography that has been published, really thought Andrew chaikens biography is a good starting point. I'd send you copies of any of them if it would open your mind.

Not wishing to derail the thread :rolleyes:

but is the gene kranz book "Failure is not an Option"? It sounds like a good read - just wondered as its on my list to get.

gizmoy2k · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:02

groen said:
Oh that wannabe physicist on tv.

groen said:
Well, I don't watch tv.

Careful. You will tell so many lies you will start to believe its the truth.....ya know like NASA do :eek:

orderoftheflame · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:03

Martytoon said:
Not wishing to derail the thread but is the gene kranz book "Failure is not an Option"? It sounds like a good read - just wondered as its on my list to get.

Yes. It's a superb book. Very insightful into managing high preasure situations as well as specifically the Apollo program.

Other superb autobiographies are Carrying the Fire by Michael Colins, and Lost Moon by Jim Lovell if you're interested.

anything I don't mind · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:06

Squark said:
How about the ISS and MIR space stations?
All the probes sent throughout our solar system, and beyond?

Manned space flights to the moon don't have the political importance they once had, so they don't get the financial backing to take place.
We kinda know all we need to know about the moon, the next important manned space flight will be to Mars so long as it is given the finance and all the technical difficulties associated with that can be overcome.

The ISS is an amazing technical achievement, testament to the international co-operation which should be present in future space missions.

Sounds plausible, or the alternative, apollo never happened and the ISS is even more of a remarkable achievement than we ever realized. To be able to dock with satellite travelling close to 7.7km/sec is unbelievable and nasa said they do it with thrusters and lasers. I am simply amassed at this feat and I don't think it is appreciate to the extent that it should be. Thanks largely to apollo. Considering the first flight across the Atlantic was in 1929, it seems quite reasonable, looking at the technology time line, when apollo is removed, it seems like a steady progress. If you add apollo in, then it sort of jumps to astronomical levels and then stagnates.

orderoftheflame · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:08

groen said:
Sounds plausible, or the alternative, apollo never happened and the ISS is even more of a remarkable achievement than we ever realized. To be able to dock with satellite travelling close to 5000km/sec is unbelievable and nasa said they do with thrusters. I am simply amassed at this feat and I don't think it is appreciate to the extent that it should be. Thanks largely to apollo. Considering the first flight across the Atlantic was in 1929, it seems quite reasonable, looking at the technology time line, when apollo is removed, it seems like a steady progress. If you add apollo in then it sort of jumps to astronomical levels and then stagnates.

Docking and rendezvous were proved in the Gemini program not Apollo.

Glaucus · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:09

Lol 5000km/sec, you heard it here first.

asim18 · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:10

groen said:
Well, I don't watch tv.

Maybe you ought to?

Lack of TV clearly hasn't done you any favours.

Martytoon · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:11

orderoftheflame said:
Yes. It's a superb book. Very insightful into managing high preasure situations as well as specifically the Apollo program.

Other superb autobiographies are Carrying the Fire by Michael Colins, and Lost Moon by Jim Lovell if you're interested.

Cheers, thanks for the heads up. I've read a few technical books around the Apollo programme and found it fascinating how they overcame the various technological challenges but would be good to get the personal side aswell.

anything I don't mind · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:12

Glaucus said:
Lol 5000km/sec, you heard it here first.

I made a mistake, I meant to put 5000km/h but I was doing it in seconds, so i change it to 7.7 after google searching. Either way it is very fast.

Blue160 · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:13

groen said:
Sounds plausible,.....the ISS is even more of a remarkable achievement than we ever realized. To be able to dock with satellite travelling close to 7.7km/sec is unbelievable and nasa said they do with thrusters. I am simply amassed at this feat and I don't think it is appreciate to the extent that it should be. Thanks largely to apollo. Considering the first flight across the Atlantic was in 1929, it seems quite reasonable, looking at the technology time line....

If you take out the guff about Apollo never happening that post sounds reasonable. How about you let yourself start to think that Apollo might actually have happened as reported? Do some reading on how it was done and become amazed at mankind's ingenuity, determination and bravery. Just because you don't understand how something was possible doesn't mean it never happened.

estebanrey · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:16

groen said:
Well, I don't watch tv.

That explains a lot.

Why not take an hour out of your life and watch this instead of infowars with Alex Jones....

dowie · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:18

groen said:
I never said that space ships require constant thrust while in orbit. What i said was that spaceships will require thrust when travelling in space in order to retain velocity. I always said that was just my own theory and not related to apollo fakeness. The point being that they did not have enough thrust, even if you claim they used moon gravity, to travel back 240k miles.

This is hilarious and goes some way to explain why these 'theories' keep being put out there. A lot of the people who believe in them are basically ignorant, have very little understanding of science and their own slightly warped ideas of how the works works.

A 13 yr old schoolboy could correct our resident white supremacist* on the above statement...

It does go some way to explaining the confused nature of his other posts on here - he's either a deliberate troll or a very deluded racist with a poor education.

*he was promoting David Duke in another thread.... :rolleyes:

momentimori · 21 Jan 2013 at 21:21

hurfdurf said:
If people could prove the moon landing was fake they would have done so by now.

If the Americans faked it the Soviets would have told the world to humiliate the them.