Too cold to work?
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^^ Also he choose to work an outdoor jobso he can't really complain... someone who choose to work indoors is a different matter.
To be honest its very frustrating. Worked my butt off at college and I have to work in a cheap style shop but minimum wage + JSA.
I was running a radio rebro on the top of a hill for 8 hours, in minus temps yesterday, in the snow, with a landrover with no blowers, you know what i did? i got on with it!
keep yourself warm, be more active, put underarmour style thermals on, thin comfortable and discreet, but for the love of god dont winge because its ~13degrees or maybe slightly below that
keep yourself warm, be more active, put underarmour style thermals on, thin comfortable and discreet, but for the love of god dont winge because its ~13degrees or maybe slightly below that
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I was running a radio rebro on the top of a hill for 8 hours, in minus temps yesterday, in the snow, with a landrover with no blowers, you know what i did? i got on with it!
keep yourself warm, be more active, put underarmour style thermals on, thin comfortable and discreet, but for the love of god dont winge because its ~13degrees or maybe slightly below that
Wouldnt be so bad if it was a propper job with more hours but because everyone apart from the manager is part time and half of them are kids they don't say/do anything. Also I work in a retail store I shouldn't have to go in dressed like an army soldier :/
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The temperature thing is awkward, but the guidelines are indeed 13 celcius, unless the nature of the business dictates that a lower temperature is required.
The stairs thing is less awkward, there must be a risk assessment for that work, if there wasn't one in place for carrying stock on the stairs before the lift failed they are obliged to do it when you were forced to use the stairs, at the very least items should be broken down to reduce the load whenever possible and team-lifting elsewhere, although I would argue that they need to fix the lift as a matter of priority.
The toilets, easiest to quote the act;
The stairs thing is less awkward, there must be a risk assessment for that work, if there wasn't one in place for carrying stock on the stairs before the lift failed they are obliged to do it when you were forced to use the stairs, at the very least items should be broken down to reduce the load whenever possible and team-lifting elsewhere, although I would argue that they need to fix the lift as a matter of priority.
The toilets, easiest to quote the act;
Now, a stall with a door within a room is not considered a room itself, unless said stall has walls from floor to ceiling, and even then it would be difficult to successfully argue that each is a room. Assuming, from your use of the word 'cubicles' that each stall does not have walls and a door extending from floor to ceiling, then the door into the room itself should have a lock on the inside, which would not prevent two people of opposing gender inadvertently using the stalls at the same time. I assume that there are not more than 25 people working at any given time?
nobody is saying you should, nothing wrong with wearing base layers with civilian clothes i do it all the time.
^^ Also he choose to work an outdoor job
Actually mate, the cushty primarily office based job I had came to an end due to the companies god awful finance management. I took the first job I got offered and got on with it
It isn't through choice, but its money!
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There is now one room with 2 cubicles. Both sexes go in to the same room but there are 2 cubicles which DO NOT have walls going from the floor to the ceiling. No there is only ever 7/8 people working at once
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Actually mate, the cushty primarily office based job I had came to an end due to the companies god awful finance management. I took the first job I got offered and got on with it
It isn't through choice, but its money!
Dude, its not money for me though. I work under 16 hours so im on job seekers allowance. If I lost my job my JSA would go up and I would be earning the same. :/
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This. Man up!
I used to be a hod carrier and the only reason we wouldn't work when it was below zero is because cement wouldn't set properly at those temps. Nothing to do with our comfort levels lol
Anyone not involved in brick laying still had to soldier on.
Doesn't it feel a little better to be working for some of your money though? Simple answer mate is keep shopping for a job with more hours
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OK, then they are not separate rooms, so for the purposes of the relevant legislation there is one toilet, there should be two. That room should, as mentioned, also be lockable from inside, which is why this counts as one facility despite there being two toilets, the lock effectively makes it difficult to use more than one of the toilets at any given time.
Speak to your manager about the lift/toilets. If it's a big company, they're likely to have some sort of personnel/HR department in place to deal with questions or complaints.
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try being a farmer like myself working 14 hours a day minimum with no breaks in -15 oc temps,for 6 days a week getting minimum wage.i wouldnt mind your job at all mate fancy swapping
You chose to be a farmer! :/
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I suspect his point was that the person in question chose to be a farmer and was fully aware that it would include working outside in cold weather, as would a builder etc. If you chose to do an indoor job, unless it involves a cold room, you don't expect to freeze your ass off everyday because the heating is broke/ the workspace is poorly designed etc etc.
As a point of note to all those saying 'wear thermals' etc, I would do this, but I would still complain like hell. Not least because the law states that the temperature should be as close to comfortable as possible without the need for extra or specialist clothing. As a point of note, if you are so cold that you require special clothes inform your employer that they are required to provide them as PPE.
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Lots of idiotic rants in here.
I used to work in retail and the uniform was a shirt, no jacket, no jumper, a shirt and a t-shirt underneath.
We had some similar issues with heating, and my problem is I get eczema coming up on the backs of my hands and my fingers if it gets too cold. The skin dries out, the skin splits and bleeds - it looks like I've put my hand through a window.
Not a problem when I'm out in the cold as I can wear gloves but how was I supposed to keep at a reasonable temperature when I'm stood in a retail environment? I can hardly wear gloves then can I?
On a similar note when I was renting an office and had staff, the staff members (majority being women) didn't come to work dressed for sub 10 degree temperatures, why should they, they were working in an office.
Now that was fine until the heating packed up (the landlord hadn't ordered enough calor gas - muppet), and we froze in the office.
We were all working at computers so the same problem happened - hands getting cold and all the members of staff were sat at their machines in their coats! I fixed that problem by bringing in oil heaters and we just got the temperature to a comfortable level otherwise I would have had to send them home.
Those of you that work outdoors, I doubt you are standing around talking to people (retail) or tapping at a computer (office), it's manual labour - you keep yourself warm working.
If you are trapped in an environment that's not suitable heat wise you shouldn't have to suffer it, especially when it's because the boss is trying to save money by not fixing the problem.
I swear this forum is getting less rational and more reactionary.
OP, refer to the guide gumbald linked to.
If this job is just to tide you over are you in a position to raise it with management and refer them to the guidelines?
Otherwise if you are receiving help from the Job Centre at the same time can you raise the issue with them?
I used to work in retail and the uniform was a shirt, no jacket, no jumper, a shirt and a t-shirt underneath.
We had some similar issues with heating, and my problem is I get eczema coming up on the backs of my hands and my fingers if it gets too cold. The skin dries out, the skin splits and bleeds - it looks like I've put my hand through a window.
Not a problem when I'm out in the cold as I can wear gloves but how was I supposed to keep at a reasonable temperature when I'm stood in a retail environment? I can hardly wear gloves then can I?
On a similar note when I was renting an office and had staff, the staff members (majority being women) didn't come to work dressed for sub 10 degree temperatures, why should they, they were working in an office.
Now that was fine until the heating packed up (the landlord hadn't ordered enough calor gas - muppet), and we froze in the office.
We were all working at computers so the same problem happened - hands getting cold and all the members of staff were sat at their machines in their coats! I fixed that problem by bringing in oil heaters and we just got the temperature to a comfortable level otherwise I would have had to send them home.
Those of you that work outdoors, I doubt you are standing around talking to people (retail) or tapping at a computer (office), it's manual labour - you keep yourself warm working.
If you are trapped in an environment that's not suitable heat wise you shouldn't have to suffer it, especially when it's because the boss is trying to save money by not fixing the problem.
I swear this forum is getting less rational and more reactionary.
OP, refer to the guide gumbald linked to.
If this job is just to tide you over are you in a position to raise it with management and refer them to the guidelines?
Otherwise if you are receiving help from the Job Centre at the same time can you raise the issue with them?