Offered a pay rise, cheeky to attempt to negotiate more?

I would say be happy with it mate, that's a good deal these days. Do another years work and if you get that again it will be even beter!
 
Again, why should he not ask the question if he thinks his contribution is worth more? Managers will try and pay as little as possible but will be well aware that they should be paying more. Maybe the way he asks for it will help, instead of asking for more bring up the breakdown of how the amount was decided and if asked about the reasons bring up about thinking your contribution warrants more.

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It is important - we can't say if he's having the mickey taken out of him, or being given huge increases without the full picture.
 
I got a 12% rise which I was well chuffed with, bonus is a total joke and amounts to practically nothing. Most people I know are either getting nothing or a token gesture, count yourself lucky!
 
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There's a bit of, if you don't ask you don't get to it. But assuming you're already getting market rate asking for a better deal than what you've been offered might just be seen as taking the ****!
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This. If you know other companies are paying more for the same role then you have reason to see if you can bump it up. Just because its 8% already doesn't mean you should just accept it if its below the market rate. For example if you are "underpaid" and everyone else in the industry is getting another 8% then you have every reason to demand more.
 
Yeah be careful here, if you want more you will need to be very confident and have a strong justification to why you should be given more. As a previous person said, check rates for other roles going out there.
 
Certainly take it. 8% + bonus can be nothing if you're underpaid.

Do you know if you're being paid the market rate? Have you considered looking for another role (higher salary)?
 
I'm pretty sure asking for more won't jeopordise his job. Surely any competent manager wouldn't think in that way. People who deal with budgets and money expect to be pushed and pulled, all part of the game.

He may well get a flat 'no' and some awkwardness, but asking in a professional, polite manner may even garner him some respect.
 
A lot of people here saying "taking the ****" etc. clearly aren't managers in control of salaries of staff.

This is day to day **** and water off a ducks back, they will say no if they want to.
 
If you are being paid the going rate for your role then it maybe hard to justify any further increase on what is offered. Of course if you go above and beyond the expected then you probably have grounds to ask for a bit more, worst they will do is say no..
 
I got 20% last year, you've been diddled.

...point being that YOU are not everyone else. 8%+4% for your company/sector/skill-set may be good/bad/indifferent, it doesn't matter what anyone else gets...because they are NOT you.

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rIcK said:
A short period of time ago I was offered a pay rise and a bonus for the past years work. I don't want to get in to specifics too much, it is an IT based job and it is my first year with the company the amount I got was around 8% as a pay rise and the bonus around 4%.

I appreciate the extra money *but* I was hoping to get something a bit more substantial. Do I just accept what I got or is there something I should be attempting here?

Any advice, realistic or otherwise is greatly appreciated.
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ask for more money if you think you're underpaid relative to the market...

also set up a linked in profile, keep your CV on job sites and keep in touch with recruiters - if you're underpaid and have better offers then look to move immediately after that bonus gets paid/pay rise takes effect.

you should only expect inflationary rises if you're near the top of what someone should be getting paid for the role you do... if you're fairly new then I'd expect you're not near the top of the range for your role at all and that after 1 year in the role you're likely adding considerably more value than you were before

how else are people supposed to progress... you don't expect to be earning more or less the same for your entire career rather experience ought to bring with it above inflation pay hikes initially... once you've been in a role at a particular level for a few years then inflationary rises are understandable and you need to get a promotion/take on more responsibility to get a higher salary. But for a junior guy who's done well, you should expect a larger % rise than someone doing the same job as you albeit who's been there for a few years and is hitting a glass ceiling - your base is lower than theirs....
 
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Difficult to give a full picture here since these are public forums. I do appreciate the advice though :)

The wording of the offer letter is something along the line of "outstanding" and "commitment", during the review nothing negative was brought up. My old manager left around 4 months back and has been chasing me to join the company he works for. Unfortunately at the time I felt my CV was unsuitable so missed a good chance to jump ship, I believe that role was in the 30k region. At the time I was not even considering it though.

To put it into perspective, I currently work more than 2 jobs. This is my main job, most are unaware I work so much. I put lots of effort in all of my jobs and work pretty damn hard. Currently actually 12 months of this now...

Id like to certificates to say I am good at what I do though, so I am currently pursuing a RHCSA and potentially a VMware VCP. Neither of which I should struggle with based on the course material I have read so far. CCNA would not be particurly difficult either but my encounter with Cisco kit recently has been minimal due to this being taken up my my colleagues.
 
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If you got the balls then ask for more. Being the brave, amazing and smart man I am. I would ask. After all under democratic right you have that right.
We are not in China.

Just imagine the hot girls and top of the range computer parts you can bag with that extra dough.
 
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Id like to certificates to say I am good at what I do though, so I am currently pursuing a RHCSA and potentially a VMware VCP. Neither of which I should struggle with based on the course material I have read so far. CCNA would not be particurly difficult either but my encounter with Cisco kit recently has been minimal due to this being taken up my my colleagues.
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As has been suggested it's probably a good idea to get an idea of your market value - it might be that the company you work for aren't prepared to pay that but it would at least give you a better idea and negotiating position.

Would you be happy with the payrise offered but for the company to pay for the training? I don't know what sort of value that would equate to in your case but it might make sense to have alternatives that would satisfy you if the company cannot or will not meet the payrise you think you deserve. If you do negotiate training then it could be worthwhile asking for a pay review once you've completed it as it may act as a natural break point and highlight your value to the company.

As for whether what you've been offerered is reasonable - it's difficult to know without more details and understandably you don't wish to divulge them. It would depend on the industry average/whether you started on a particularly low wage as it was a new role/whether the company has a set pay structure etc etc.
 
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