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i3 3220 vs A10 5800K

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Hi guys,

I am building a very budget gaming PC for my little nephew and am really stumped on which route to take.

Assuming that I will be adding a discrete GPU at some point, such as a 7770 or something like that, which would be the better CPU?

I am leaning towards the i3 3220 with a cheap Z77 board, that way in a few years time when I upgrade I can stick my old 3570k in it and give it a new lease of life. But the 5800k on the other hand will give much better IGP performance out of the box.

Cheers for any help,
 
I'd go with the 5800K route, end gaming performance with a 7770 isn't going to differ between an i3 and 5800K, but in the short term you've got better gaming on the 5800K.
 
Thanks for the info. Will the 5800K have more longevity due to it being a quad core? Or does that not really make much difference right now in gaming.
 
Pretty much depends on games you play.
Some older games are going to run a fair bit better on the i3 3220, new games won't run terrible at all on it, but the A10 could edge it in CPU grunt in newer games, but not a great amount.
 
He is only 5 years old and plays mainly Primal Carnage, so think I will go ahead with the 5800k, that way he can be up and running by the weekend as I don't have to get a discrete gfx card.

Cheers for the help
 
Martini1991 said:
I'd go with the 5800K route, end gaming performance with a 7770 isn't going to differ between an i3 and 5800K, but in the short term you've got better gaming on the 5800K.
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Eh :confused:

There is a fair performance difference graphically between a 7770 and a the IGP of the A10!

The i3 is the better CPU too (less cores but higher IPC) and when paired witha Z77 mobo can have a Ivy CPU plugged right into it when the 2 cores arent enough.

@OP

Get the A10 if

A. The games you will be running arent graphically demaning

or

B. You wont be getting a GPU like a 7*** series card for a while.
 
I think he meant gaming in your scenario B, with an eventual 7770ish card on either the i3 or A10.
 
Bacon? said:
Eh :confused:

There is a fair performance difference graphically between a 7770 and a the IGP of the A10!

The i3 is the better CPU too (less cores but higher IPC) and when paired witha Z77 mobo can have a Ivy CPU plugged right into it when the 2 cores arent enough.

@OP

Get the A10 if

A. The games you will be running arent graphically demaning

or

B. You wont be getting a GPU like a 7*** series card for a while.
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Learn to read.
 
eddyr said:
tbh, I did a double take

Martini1991! Not recomending an intel system!!
'Mother of god...'
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Because I'm not biased in the slightest, never have been.

You mustn't read many threads I post in, because this isn't the first AMD recommendation, not by a long shot.

People just lack the ability to be objective and lack the ability to post advice based on the situation, which results in people being branded as biased/fanboy, when they're far from it. It just annoys them.
 
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I3 route makes more sense if you'll be adding a dedicated gpu later. Maybe even go for one of the lower end socket 1155 processors and put the money towards a better gpu?
 
Bacon? said:
I did read...

"end gaming performance with a 7770 isn't going to differ between an i3 and 5800K"


There is actually an end result difference.

Read my post...
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You obviously can't read. Keep reading it till you can understand it, or should I rephrase? The end performance WITH the 7770, isn't going to be any different between an i3 and an A10 5800k, as both CPU's will pretty much be able to take the 7770 to constant maximum, unless of course you're playing Rome Total War, or certain MMO's.
The OP says he's getting a 7770 at a later date, the i3 3220 and A10 are about the same price, so he's not getting the i3 and 7770 at the same time, the 7770 is getting bought with either set up.

Do you really think an A10 will yield lower results with a 7770 than an i3 would?

I never said anything about the A10's IGP against the 7770.

EDIT : Also, the new APU's are to have GCN based IGP's, so they're going to get pretty close to a 7770 as is, but also increasing CPU performance too, for a 5 year old this makes far more sense as you can just upgrade the APU when they launch.

EDIT 2 : Although personally I'd find a nice cheap second hand i3, buy one of them 35 quid Z-68 Boards and get myself a cheap 7770, extending the budget, as short term it'll be the better game, with better future prospects.

And you can't exactly say as a blanket statement the i3 3200 is the better CPU, as it's task dependant (Both in the favour and against for i3 3220), and the A10 can overclock to about 4.2GHZ fairly easy?
 
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To be fair I understood Martini1991 perfectly. He was saying that if I am to add a discrete card eventually such as a 7770 there won't be much difference in the performance between both CPU's, but right now without a discrete card the 5800k would be better than the i3.


I've also changed my mind, I'm going to get the cheapest Z77 board I can get my hands on, stick the i3 3220 in that with a discrete card, then in a few years stick my 3570k in it.

Cheers for the advice guys

EDIT. Just red Martini1991'S second edit, looks like a cheaper Z68 board would be an even cheaper option. I was thinking my 3570k was only compatible with Z77, silly me :) Now to find the cheapest Z68 possible :)
 
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Ahh there it is, was looking for the £35 board :)

Do you happen to know if the B grade items are covered by the manufacturer warranty?

Cheers mate
 
I've had a second hand board before from Gigabyte and inquired about getting it repaired, they only wanted serial number, and the serial number checked out fine.
For Ivy CPU's and compatibility, they will work on every consumer desktop 1155 board, there's nothing to prevent it working as long as they've had their BIOS flashed.

So the whole scaremongering about Ivy and BIOS's and older boards by the tech sites a few months before Ivy's launch was all for naught, as per.
 
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