1080p Video Editing Build

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A friend of mine is considering building a PC for video editing as his current PC isn't cutting it at higher resolutions (720p and 1080p).

There is no budget as such, he simply wants the cheapest possible rig that will handle his requirements.

The video editing program he currently uses is Cyberlink powerdirector (10 or 11 - not sure which version.)
The PC will be used for editing go pro videos at 720p 60fps and 1080p 30fps.

The cyberlink website lists the system requirements, but doesn't state which graphics card is needed for 720p and 1080p footage.

Is a graphics card necessary for video editing?

He already has a monitor.

Here is what i am thinking so far...
YOUR BASKET
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showd (GX-100-GI) £129.95
1 x Asus M5A97 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £81.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £43.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD £43.99
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x In-Win Griffin Midi Tower - Black/Yellow £32.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £24.00
Total : £491.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).
and the CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 Quad

Total price: £571.84

Are all of the components listed compatible? are there any cheaper alternatives?
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showd (GX-100-GI) £129.95
1 x Asus M5A97 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £81.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
2 x TeamGroup Elite 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £43.99 (£87.98)
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD £43.99
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x In-Win Griffin Midi Tower - Black/Yellow £32.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £24.00
Total : £535.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).
with the CPU that makes it £615.
 
 
Yeah I checked on anandtech before putting in the FX-6300. I think you'll find the benchmark says "higher is better" or "lower is better", in both cases the FX-6300 is better :)
 
Could anyone answer me a couple of questions?:

Is a graphics card necessary for video editing?
if yes, what is the lowest spec graphics card that would do the job at 1080p?

Would the last spec ^^^ be better at video editing than my PC (3570k, ATI 7950, 128GB SSD, 1TB 7200RPM HD, 8GB RAM)?
 
Your PC would destroy any of the builds in this thread :p In conclusion no the last spec wouldn't be better than your PC :p
 
dacads said:
Your PC would destroy any of the builds in this thread :p In conclusion no the last spec wouldn't be better than your PC :p
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sorry to keep asking the same question, but do you mind explaining your answer? i'm relatively n00bish.

- my CPU is a quad core with less RAM, whilst i know it performs fantastically in games (as that is why i built it), i thought that more RAM and CPU cores are best for video editing.... so surely a 6 or 8 core AMD with double my RAM would beat mine at rendering and video editing?
 
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/701?vs=699

You'll probably be fine with 8GB RAM but 16GB would be ideal but I think more so for more intensive stuff such as 3d modelling/rendering. I use software such as AEE and Sony Vegas myself without any problems on 8GB RAM :)

You can see from the comparison the 3570k is faster in every way possible :p More cores doesn't necessarily mean better, the invidual performance of each core has to be taken into account as well :p

But if we bought the FX-8350 into the scenario then yes the 8 cores would be beneficially better than the 3570k at tasks such as rendering which can benefit from more cores. But of course the gap is significantly reduced also due to the fact each core performs better than the FX-6300 cores.
 
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Probably better off with an Nvidia card with CUDA than an AMD with DVXA. I don't imagine it would need to be anything as good as a 7850 either.
 
martinoheat said:
A friend of mine is considering building a PC for video editing as his current PC isn't cutting it at higher resolutions (720p and 1080p).
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What exactly is the problem he's having? Is it jerking/tearing/blocky playback or something else?

DXVA or CUVID if you want hardware decoding, othewise any half decent CPU will do the job of software decoding, I know a PC with an E6600 that has no trouble with 1080p playback.

Make sure he's using some decent codecs too, H264 is demanding and many decoders can't do the job properly.

Other than that, a good size hard drive, at least 1TB will be needed as HD videos take up a LOT of space, especially as you need to have the original and a copy you're working on on the drive. A decent amount of RAM. Other than that, you don't need anything particularly demanding IMO.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
What exactly is the problem he's having? Is it jerking/tearing/blocky playback or something else?

DXVA or CUVID if you want hardware decoding, othewise any half decent CPU will do the job of software decoding, I know a PC with an E6600 that has no trouble with 1080p playback.

Make sure he's using some decent codecs too, H264 is demanding and many decoders can't do the job properly.

Other than that, a good size hard drive, at least 1TB will be needed as HD videos take up a LOT of space, especially as you need to have the original and a copy you're working on on the drive. A decent amount of RAM. Other than that, you don't need anything particularly demanding IMO.
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He said:
''when i press play to see the editing i have done, it takes ages before it starts. Sometimes it misses clips on the timeline (especially short clips).''

i'll try to find out his current spec, but he's not the kind of person to open the PC and know exactly what his components are, so it might be difficult.

when you say make sure he is using decent codecs..... whaaa?
i remember once installing codecs because my PC laptop couldn't play a certain format, but never really understood what they are, as these days i can edit etc. on my PC and have never worried about codecs.... what are they and how do i change them? lol
 
Try downloading the Combined Community Codec Pack..or K-Lite Codec pack

codecs basically encode/decode digital data ;)
 
martinoheat said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card w/ Nexuiz, Sleeping Dogs & Dirt Showd (GX-100-GI) £129.95
1 x Asus M5A97 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £81.98
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
2 x TeamGroup Elite 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £43.99 (£87.98)
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD £43.99
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x In-Win Griffin Midi Tower - Black/Yellow £32.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £24.00
Total : £535.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).
with the CPU that makes it £615.
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I'd probably go with something like this......

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £179.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-Bit - OEM (GFC-02050) £79.99
1 x Corsair XMS3 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (CMX16GX3M2A1600C11) £59.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £53.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z68A-D3H-GEN3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 (MB-380-GI) £52.00
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
1 x **B Grade** BitFenix Shinobi USB3.0 Gaming Case - Black £29.99
1 x Xigmatek Achilles II SD1284 CPU-Cooler - 120mm (Socket LGA775/1155/1156/1366 AMD AM2/AM3/FM1) £23.98
Total : £534.00 (includes shipping : £11.75).



Think I would keep an eye out for a 2nd hand 1GB 460, should be around £50ish. They overclock well, still gaming capable and offer CUDA support (overclocking helps CUDA too). Powerdirector can use GPU acceleration wether it be an AMD or Nvidia GPUs. There is a tweak you could do to revert to CUDA from OpenCL for PD10, not sure if it works for PD11 but CUDA is better ;)
 
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