Are you concerned about youth unemployment figures?

No, it doesn't mean going back in health at all.
You are over exaggerating. They're are 10s of thousands of shared housing and it's not an issue. Again your making assumptions and plucking them from your rear.
All I'm saying is bring it in line with private renting.

And let's build some bloody houses, and disallow some protesting as well as ease planning permission. Owners should not own the view.

It's not throwing waste out the window, rubbish collections, antibiotics to stop spread. Not do much density.
 
Not particularly.

Excluding the 'forgotten 50%' as I can't really speak for them. I would say the following:
I'm currently in my final year at university, this means people are looking to go off and do masters, volunteering work, or, yes in many cases try and get jobs.

All of the students I know, who have put the effort into progressing, who work reasonably hard at Uni, but still have a reasonable work-life balance, and something reasonably interesting, to make them able to hold a conversation in an interview, and who have done their research on where and what they're applying too, seem to have offers, and stuff sorted for next year, or are progressing well with schemes.

There are however quite a few, who haven't applied for stuff and have no idea what they're doing next year, and it's these students who I do suspect will be filling these unemployment figures.

Not to mention the fact that their is a historic trend for the youth to be less employed by those older who have more experience.

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Glaucus said:
IMO work ethics, which is getting worse. Not just the young.
You are only as good as the job you can get. If you can't get a good one, get a rubbish one. IMO no reason to be out of work, you are either don't put any effort in, or are setting their sights far to high up the ladder.
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With all due respect, bull****. I took an unpaid internship so I could get some office experience because nobody was hiring, does that sound like a poor work ethic to you? Obviously that doesn't apply to everyone, but most want to work.

Anyone who was hiring had 100+ applicants so could cherry pick whoever they wanted.

Glaucus said:
Dons flame suit, but even if I get made jobless, I can almost guarantee I would be in work within weeks. You just have to go get it and look at anything.
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That's easy to say with years of experience behind you.

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There's also a lack of willing to travel. Oh I can't do taht job it's 3,5,10 miles away. So walk, cycle get a £200 moped. Hopefully with caps and other beneift changes, might spur some people on to actually get a job.
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What are you supposed to get the license, moped and insurance with? The £56 a week you get on JSA?
 
Years of experienced in a pretty closed industry with little relevant experience outside. Do you think I always have experience?
It's lucky I took a stop gap job, as I never did get into it and quite glad I didn't. I then took another stop gap job, so I could apply for internal degree, didn't get that either.

So you can talk for everyone? But even if you are trying, it doesn't stop such people finding a stop gap job.

Walk, cycle. Mopeds are cheap and it depends where you are coming from and what money you have. But people overlook it and go, there's no local jobs and I can't afford a car.
 
Skillmister said:
Glaucus seems to be living in blissful ignorance land.
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Not in the slightest. Everything I've said Ive done and that's why i have jobs. Yet I know a fair few people who don't go out looking. Well they say they do. But they only apply on Reed for a job they really want. Or even worse two people who do not want jobs and are happy to life on benefits.
 
Glaucus said:
Years of experienced in a pretty closed industry with little relevant experience outside.

So you can talk for everyone? But even of you are trying, it doesn't stop such people finding a stop gap job.

Walk, cycle. Mopeds are cheap and it depends where you are coming from and what money you have. But people overlook it and go, there's no local jobs and I can't afford a car.
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Yes. Some people do. Some people also manage to get by when their weekly job search consists of "i asked in tesco" while i'm on the verge of getting sanctions thanks to being late for an appointment one day due to the weather.

The number of people i'm getting told are applying to basic unskilled jobs is insane. What can one do other than wait in the hope that one day it will be my CV that lands on the top of the pile?
 
£200 on a moped is 4 weeks JSA. Where do they get that AND food?

And we are still stuck with the initial problem that sparked this thread. If you are not getting young, inexperienced staff into entry-level roles we will have major problems in 10+ years.
 
Glaucus said:
Years of experienced in a pretty closed industry with little relevant experience outside.
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Any experience in any job is better than none.

Glaucus said:
So you can talk for everyone? But even of you are trying, it doesn't stop such people finding a stop gap job.
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Everyone? No, I even said it doesn't apply to everyone. However I am one of these young people with little experience who has struggled finding work, so I think it's fair to say I have a better idea of what it's like than you.

I was talking about stop gap jobs, any job. There aren't many and the ones there are will have loads of applicants.

For example one I recently interviewed for a part time roll in a call centre was carrying out 3 days of interviews, the day I went there was 52 of us.

Glaucus said:
Walk, cycle. Mopeds are cheap and it depends where you are coming from and what money you have. But people overlook it and go, there's no local jobs and I can't afford a car.
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I have just got a job and will be walking, however I only limited my search to 15 miles through public transport as most people will. Getting a license, moped and insurance will cost at least £500. Again, where will someone getting £56 a week to live on find £500?
 
Glaucus said:
... Everything I've said Ive done and that's why i have jobs. ...
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These times they are a changin' (could make a song of that).

Things have moved on, what you did then won't work now. And your down out refusal to actually acknowledge what's happened in the past few years leaves what you are saying here of little relevance.

Skillmister said:
My one only had about 30... But mid way through i discovered they wanted 6-12 months experience :D For cold calling!
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My point exactly.
They can't get a job because they don't have experience, because they can't get a job, because they don't have experience.
 
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Not at all, there are plenty of jobs and some are pretty easy to get. There was little difference.
People don't like nights, people don't like cold/wet environment, people don't like dead animals. These jobs are easy to get and still are. People also get sucked into looking only in certain areas, those have always had hundreads of applicants.
 
Glaucus said:
Not at all, there are plenty of jobs and some are pretty easy to get. There was little difference.
People don't like nights, people don't like cold/wet environment, people don't like dead animals. These jobs are easy to get and still are. People also get sucked into looking only in certain areas, those have always had hundreads of applicants.
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Little difference? Ha!

People LOVE nights. Our nightshift is a sought after shift. Higher pay, less stress and you get to run your errands, because your time off is the high streets core hours.
 
Concerned is not a word that is relevant here, it is simply maths.

What i expect in the coming years is a continuation of the youth social decline, it is not their fault, the education system tells you that you must aim for the highest job available at all costs, your parents are too busy trying to do this to be parents and the government has the highest jobs available already (or will have when they leave), so they don't care.

Sooner or later the youth will realise the cycle and destroy it, it already began with the England riots, they witnessed how weak the system really was. (Even placated individuals that had nothing to do with it...which was the majority, just in case someone implies it means nothing)

Of course then there is youth emigration, but for a nation of our stature, people would rather stay and just get more angry instead, id wager.

Speculation of course, but the less people have to lose (job, family or a life in general) the less consequence matters.

I suppose this is more exaggeration than anything with Britain, we never were a people of action, but i believe that is changing, the values instilled by the Americanisation in the past 50 years likely has a play in it.

I am one of these young folk and I am very much prepared to leave, this is my opinion.
 
Woden said:
Little difference? Ha!

People LOVE nights. Our nightshift is a sought after shift. Higher pay, less stress and you get to run your errands, because your time off is the high streets core hours.
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I was always going for night jobs, would be ideal for me as I'm usually up anyway! :p

StriderX said:
I am one of these young folk and I am very much prepared to leave, this is my opinion.
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Aus would be my first port of call if I left, although getting a visa and flights sorted isn't cheap.
 
Didn't read the whole thread so am probably reiterating what others have said.

I think it is due to so many young people had chosen uni and therefore a very large portion get degrees and won't accept a low paid "below them" job, at the moment as it is an employers market who are they likely to choose, Mr 19 got 2 degrees but been put of work for a year and not really worked or Mr 30 also 2 degrees but went into a low paid job straight from uni, quickly worked they way up within that company so now also has 12 years experience under his belt, Mr 30 going for this job as recently made redundant due to hard times at previous company.

I believe that raising the fees to attend uni might actually start to turn the young unemployed figure round, leas going to uni and therefore not having the idea of grandeur so will just be happy with any job as they don't have the "but I have degrees" chip on their shoulders.
 
I find it strange that all the talk from the government, is always about the 18-24 age bracket, and nobody gives a stuff about those who are 25+
 
It is a HUGE problem, that will have ramifications beyond mere financial problems.

Degree's should never be taken as a guarantee of a job, but when you have people leaving universities having worked hard etc and unable to get jobs, then there are bound to be problems.

I know quite a few people who have graduated from university (Bristol, Oxford, Sussex, UCL etc) and have not got jobs.

And morons like Glaucus saying they should get "any job" really is not helping. Most have no objections short term, but you cannot expect educated motivated people to put up with minimum wage or the Job seekers hell forever.
 
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