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I think you misunderstand me Moses.
Chris Huhne to be charged for perverting the course of justice
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Another look at the "incontrovertible evidence" and didn't want to risk a long sentence when found guilty.
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I'm not normally one to rejoice at someone facing a term in prison but this really is superb. The man is vile.
You say that as though it's a bad thing. What's the point in keeping him somewhere super harsh? He's basically zero threat/must be close to the lowest end of the scale in terms of dangerous people in our prison system, so shirley moving him to a low category prison early on makes sense? House him in a suitable category prison, then start on the rehabilitation ;3.
What are they supposed to be rehabilitating him for, having the common sense to lie like 90% of the population would? It's about punishment for lying to authority, plain and simple.
So whether they are red, blue or yellow you can be sure they either fiddle their expenses, pervert the course of justice, flip flop, break pledges, touch up kids, unintentionally mislead Parliament, "mistakenly allow the distinction between personal interests and government activities to become blurred", buy peerages or accept dodgy donations
Is there one leading truly reputable MP in this country?
Is there one leading truly reputable MP in this country?
Soldato
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Why would you expect anyone who's been convicted of such a minor crime to be sent to a maximum security prison anyway?
But still allegedly perverting the course of justice.
yes, but if the persons concerned were not high ranking members of the cabinet no one would give a flying ****. Fact remains this is still a non news event, crap like this goies down every single day in the 'common people' population and no one bats an eyelid.
Personally I don't care either way, if he is doing a good job then why get rid of him, of course if he is doing a bad job then use this as an excuse to offload him..........
Because he's bang to rights, pleasing guilty will get him a shorter sentance.
8 May 2011: When a Sunday newspaper first made the allegation, a senior Lib Dem source said: “These claims have been made before against Chris and he maintains that they are completely untrue.”
16 May 2011: After a complaint was made to the police: “All I want to say is these allegations are simply incorrect. They’ve been made before and they’ve been shown to be untrue. I very much welcome the referral to the police.”
20 September 2011: Asked whether he would resign if the police charged him: “We'll have to wait and see, but I don't anticipate that as a likely outcome. I'm hopeful that the Crown Prosecution Service will reach the conclusion that there is not a case to answer. I'm delighted to say that there's an official inquiry into all of this stuff and I hope that is going to draw a line under it.”
3 Feb 2012: After being charged and resigning as Energy Secretary: “I am innocent of the charges. I am going to fight this in the courts and I am confident a jury will agree.”
4 Feb 2013: Southwark Crown Court. The charge was read out by Mr Justice Sweeney and Huhne was asked how he pleaded. He replied: “Guilty”.
Such a minor crime that the maximum penalty is Life imprisonment.
The reason it is there is that perverting the course of justice undermines the whole idea of having a Justice system.
The saying that, you would really have to be doing something so outrageous to attract that penalty.
Huhn hasn't really hurt anyone other than himself. He is a fool to say the least. If he had accepted the speeding ticket it would have resulted in points and a fine - now it it has cost him his job as an MP and more importantly he is marked out as dishonest.
He'll probably get 18 months, serve 9 and it will be in a low category prison.
Going to be interesting now to see which parties enter and who they field for the by-election. Eastleigh is a pretty strong LibDem area, the council is 40 LibDems and 4 Conservatives, with the LibDems increasing their seats at the local elections in 2012.
New seat for Lembit Opik maybe?
I bet those text messages went down well
Edit:
PH: “We all know that you were driving and you put pressure on Mum. Accept it or face the consequences. You’ve told me that was the case. Or will this be another lie?”
CH: “I have no intention of sending Mum to Holloway Prison for three months. Dad”
PH: “Are you going to accept your responsibility or do I have to contact the police and tell them what you told me?”
PH: “I don’t want to speak to you, you disgust me, **** off.”
PH: “You are the most ghastly man I’ve ever known. Does it give you pleasure that you have lost almost all of your friends?”
PH: “You just don’t get it.”
CH: “Happy Christmas. I love you”
PH: “I hate you so **** off.”
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PH: “We all know that you were driving and you put pressure on Mum. Accept it or face the consequences. You’ve told me that was the case. Or will this be another lie?”
CH: “I have no intention of sending Mum to Holloway Prison for three months. Dad”
PH: “Are you going to accept your responsibility or do I have to contact the police and tell them what you told me?”
PH: “I don’t want to speak to you, you disgust me, **** off.”
PH: “You are the most ghastly man I’ve ever known. Does it give you pleasure that you have lost almost all of your friends?”
PH: “You just don’t get it.”
CH: “Happy Christmas. I love you”
PH: “I hate you so **** off.”
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Thing is, can't "Mum" still be guilty as well as the charge is perverting the course of justice, not speeding. She should have just kept her trap shut imo.
The real sickener will be when Huhne gets out after 8 or so weeks and then walks into some six-figure executive job.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/perverting_the_course_of_justice/
Says the sentence is 4-36 months not life.
A 4 month sentence is probably likely due to it being for a minor offence and a first offence. Though his position as an MP may up the sentence if they want to make an example of him.
I believe she is going to be using the defence of "Marital Coercion", will be interesting to see how that goes down.
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Never really understood it anyway. I mean why isn't everyone who's found guilty of a crime that pleaded not guilty given a conviction for trying top pervert the course of justice too?
Well as I understand it you get a bigger sentence if you plead not guilty and you're found guilty than if you admit it straight off. PCoJ is probably more along the lines if you lie in another sense like he did? Or you're a key witness...
Well, that's what I get from my Lardybird book of the law anyway
