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Why is the 7970 so cheap compared to the 680?

Yep, the Lian Li A70 which is the previous model to the A70F which i have offered this. Those fan points were removed on the F model. Bit of a backwards step tbh. The hdd cages on the 70F are a bit restrictive, however swapping the stock fans for 2x silverstone air penetrators made a vast difference.

Used to love those SST-AP121's when I was on air, probably the best intake fan on the market, a shame they are relatively weak in other areas, I will be sad to see my last AP121 get sold when I rebuild

Not yet, not on this build. My next build, whenever that may be, im considering it. Never done watercooling before so. :p

Get a thread started in WC when the time comes mate, we'll sort you out :)
 
Well im waiting to hear back from tommy regarding something we've been looking at and he's trying it first so ill hold off for now. The spot would look better in my case.

Tommy has Italian blood in his veins, these things take time to achieve because we take things easy, as(probably) to get a bigger response.

I'm still at work, so won't be today, if I'm lucky, late tomorrow night or Monday night.;)


The AC has a sort of lip on the shroud, you can attach a 120mm fan slap bang on it(flat onto the 7970 writing) nesting right up against the pci-e power cables, almost bang on the vrms, if you can get a hold of some wire and feed it through the fan mounts and attach it to either side of your case, simple, effective and free if you have a spare fan kicking about.
 
Tommy has Italian blood in his veins, these things take time to achieve because we take things easy, as(probably) to get a bigger response.

I'm still at work, so won't be today, if I'm lucky, late tomorrow night or Monday night.;)


The AC has a sort of lip on the shroud, you can attach a 120mm fan slap bang on it(flat onto the 7970 writing) nesting right up against the pci-e power cables, almost bang on the vrms, if you can get a hold of some wire and feed it through the fan mounts and attach it to either side of your case, simple, effective and free if you have a spare fan kicking about.

Sounds effective but would look a bit daft i reckon. I've pinned pretty much all my hopes on what we spoke about. That is by far the best solution. No pressure Tommy but we're all counting on you.
 
I think you guys have convinced me. I haven't answered the question myself, people have just me understand the situation.

Nvidia cards at the moment are way overpriced and give next to 0 benefits. If I buy an AMD card, I get pretty much everything I want, my 3GB vRAM (Perfect number, 4GB is overkill, 2GB is dangerous), the best performance I can possibly get, a cheap price, and solid drivers.


That is your answer :p

Kepler are fantastic GPU's, there is no arguing with that, but they are no better than anything AMD have.

With Kepler you are essentially paying more for less given the vRam difference.
Performance is the same.

As someone else said "AMD Drivers... derp derp..." is so last year, AMD's drivers are pretty solid these days and your getting new toys with them every other day due to AMD working very hard on them and constantly releasing new BETA drivers for us to enjoy.

The old days of lackluster AMD GPU support are gone.
 
Used to love those SST-AP121's when I was on air, probably the best intake fan on the market, a shame they are relatively weak in other areas, I will be sad to see my last AP121 get sold when I rebuild
Got them in both my cases, however i tried the 120's on my k2 cooler. Not great tbh. The 140's dont fit the k2 due to the fan clips only working on square framed 120mm fans. Currently running theese on the cooler.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-073-AK&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4

Even better than scythe gt's that i tried before.
 
Got them in both my cases, however i tried the 120's on my k2 cooler. Not great tbh. The 140's dont fit the k2 due to the fan clips only working on square framed 120mm fans. Currently running theese on the cooler.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-073-AK&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4

Even better than scythe gt's that i tried before.

Yep, that is the downfall of the AP's, they are quite poor on heatsinks/radiators.

Just received 6 of these: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-026-ZW&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=

You honestly wouldn't believe how high the quality is on them for the price.

Piranhas look good, an evolution of the viper/apache by the look of it :)
 
Those are basically sharkoon silent eagle 2000's pgi. An excellent if rather loud at full speed fan. But im fairly certain youll be using a fan controller. They are an excellent fan on densely finned cpu coolers.

The piranhas are indeed an upgraded viper, but the static pressure is a lot better. Same speed range though. Im getting 75c max, 65c minimum on a 3570k @4.5ghz, 1.300 vcore @100% load.
 
Wow, topic seriously jacked xD

I need to find some decent prices for 7970s or 7950s now then.

I'm not sure which I should go for...
 
Reckon I should go for a 7950 rather than a 7970?

Yes, the 7970 is only about 5% faster than the 7950 clock for clock, i think Rusty already went through this in some detail :)

If you want to be elitist get the 7970, nothing wrong with that, there are a few around here who have 7970 knowing there is little difference.... however if you just want top of the line performance and save yourself from that elitist price tag get the 7950.
 
Your looking at around a 5% performance increase for a big £ different ;)

By all means if you want a 7970 get a 7970 like the Lightening or Boost edition :)
 
not had an nvidia card as i couldnt afford the kind of performance i wanted with nvidia but i really do like their cards.

had a 7850 and it was great, drivers were problematic when i first got it but they are very refined now and the stability issues that have plagued the cards reputation is now non existant as far as i can tell.

got a 7970 now and i love it. not had any driver issues since 12.8, im on 13.1 now and it is rock solid as far as i can tell, played a whole load of skyrim when the dragonborn dlc came out, got 41 graphical mods running and it didnt crash all day. must have been on the game for a good 8 hours solid.

only reason i got the 7970 is that ocuk had a grand opening at their new store with some crazy price cuts
 
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