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citizen0100

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Hi All,

This is quite specific but hoping someone can help, I’m looking to build a PC for a friend in the near future, he has around £800 to £900 to spend and predominantly will be using Revit and 3Ds Max to create and design buildings, extensions and 3D walk through of said buildings etc!!

I’ve put the following together, could you let me know if you think it’ll be suitable or whether I should swap the CPU for a i7 or similar:

PNY Nvidia Quadro 600 Graphics Card - 1GB - GDDR3 SDRAM [VCQ600-PB] £159
Intel Xeon E3-1220 V2 3.10GHz (Socket 1155) - Retail - £158
Gigabyte Z77X-UD5H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - £173
Cooler Master TPC-800 CPU-Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £42
Corsair Vengeance 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Triple Channel Kit (CMZ12GX3M3A1600C9) £90
OCZ Vector 128GB 2.5” SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (VTR1-25SAT3-128G) £114
Akasa Venom 850w ‘80 Plus Gold’ Modular Power Supply £100
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound £8
Akasa Blade Windowed Midi Tower Case - Black/Blue £70

Thanks very much!!
 
I can see a few things wrong with that..

The Quadro 600 is an entry level card, for that kind of money you can get a mid-range Firepro (see below)... Quadros do tend to work better on 3DS but the V4900 is so much faster/powerful than the 600...

Need to go with the i7, Hyper threading will help no end.

Picked a CPU cooler with no fans? If you have an I7 you must overclock it, its the law .:)

Triple channel RAM doesn't sit well with the 1155 sockets. Dual Channel..

850W is WAY too much..

This is my suggestion:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £259.99
1 x AMD FirePro V4900 Professional Graphics Card - 1GB - GDDR5 SDRAM £134.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £112.99
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £82.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £73.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX16C10B1BK2/16X) £71.99
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L7 530W '80 Plus' Power Supply £54.95
1 x Phanteks PH-TC12DX CPU Cooler - Black (Socket 775 / 1150 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £44.98
1 x NZXT Source 210 Elite Midi Tower Case - Black £39.98
Total : £890.95 (includes shipping : £11.75).



Cooler comes with thermal paste (good paste too)
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £259.99
1 x AMD FirePro V4900 Professional Graphics Card - 1GB - GDDR5 SDRAM £134.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £112.99
1 x Plextor M5 Pro 128GB Extreme Series Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5P) £99.95
1 x Kingston HyperX Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX16C10B1BK2/16X) £71.99
1 x XFX Pro 650W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £69.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 32MB Cache - OEM (ST31000524AS) HDD £61.99
1 x NZXT Source 210 Elite Midi Tower Case - Black £39.98
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 612S CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £32.99
Total : £899.86 (includes shipping : £12.50).



This would be a better investment!

CPU - i7 will be fine
RAM - Can't use Triple channel RAM on a Dual channel board, changed to 16GB which should be perfect
SSD - OCZ's are ok, but the controller can cause issues, Plextor, Samsung & Crucial are among the best & recommended.
PSU - Not sure the Akasa ones are any good, XFX & Seasonic produce some of the best PSU's.

Hope this helps!
 
This would be what I'd go for:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £259.99
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT128M4SSD2) £93.98
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x Seasonic G series 550w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £76.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX16C10B1BK2/16X) £71.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 300R Mid Tower Case - Black £64.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £59.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Arctic Cooling MX-4 Thermal Compound (4g) £8.99
Total : £758.00 (includes shipping : £11.75).


However, I don't know much about Quadro's/Firepro's so I'll leave that to someone else ;)
One thing, will he need a HDD or have you already got one?
 
You really want to use an NVidia card for 3DS max. The I-Ray GPU renderer needs Cuda & it's dynamics system is Phys-x accelerated.
I'd rather go for a fast new Geforce than a pro card for CG work (I use mainly Cinema 4D now but I've used max a lot too). Only caveat being I know nothing about re-vit & it's requirments.
 
Hi all,

Thanks for all the replies, really good of you to take the time!!

Do have a question or two:
Would a i7 be better than Xeon? Is it just down to hyper threading?
What is the main difference in 2 or 3 channel RAM?

Thanks
 
citizen0100 said:
Hi all,

Thanks for all the replies, really good of you to take the time!!

Do have a question or two:
Would a i7 be better than Xeon? Is it just down to hyper threading?
What is the main difference in 2 or 3 channel RAM?

Thanks
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The i7 & Xeon both user hyperthreading and I dont think there would be much benifit to the xeon over the i7 unless in the enterprise market, the i7 will be fine.

Quad/Dual channal RAM would not really make that much difference, you'll probably get 10-15% increase from the Quad over the Dual, but it's more to do with the quantity & speed of the RAM you are using.

How heavy is your 3D going to be? This may determine your upgade path.
 
OliverDavis said:
May I point out that the newer 6 series Geforce GPU's are somewhat better and cheaper then the Quadro GPUs in AutoDesk AutoCAD. So presumably better for 3Ds too. http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AutoDesk-AutoCAD-2013-GPU-Acceleration-164

Quadro 4000 = £600 approx
GTX 660 = £170 (10% Faster on AutoCAD)
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That is interesting but im pretty sure auto cad and 3ds max are different enough to affect gpu performance significantly.

I do agree with the 660 as a choice...
 
Doomedspeed said:
That is interesting but im pretty sure auto cad and 3ds max are different enough to affect gpu performance significantly.

I do agree with the 660 as a choice...
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Maybe the performance difference scales differently for 3Ds, maybe better making a GTX650 faster than a Q4000, or maybe a 660TI will just about beat it. Without benches, who knows??
 
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