Best £400 Build give or take £50

[jm240]

I want the best 'gaming' pc money can buy for around 400-450 price tag.

nVidia GPU's only. Monitor and peripherals not to be included!

Thanks!

 

[snips86x]

The A10 will be perfect. Google & Youtube the graphics processor on this baby and you'll see how it performs, t's outsanding!!

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £95.99
1 x MSI A85XA-G65 AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £85.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £57.98
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £39.95
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (TXD38G2133HC11DC01) £37.99
1 x Aerocool Vs-9 Midi-Tower Case - Black £35.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £386.98 (includes shipping : £11.75).



or and i3 with grade-b parts...

YOUR BASKET
1 x **B Grade** Sapphire HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £137.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £89.99
1 x **B Grade** MSI Z68MA-G43 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 (MB-222-MS) £49.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430W V2 '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020046-UK) £39.95
1 x Aerocool Vs-9 Midi-Tower Case - Black £35.99
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £31.99
1 x **B Grade** Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM £30
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £449.88 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Any reason why you want nVidia only? They are too overpriced for a decent one, so added a 7850 instead.

 

[Doomedspeed]

For under £400, the A10 is perfect. Really good I built graphics and can add a you later if you ramp up the gaming. It will do most games on med/high. Does bf3 well on high.

You can get it cheaper by getting a cheaper motherboard. The A75's are a bit less and also allow over clocking and other features present on A85. Though the motherboard spec ed is great.

The i3 + 7850 combo is ideal as it give you an upgrade path to an i5 if needed and the 7850 is a spectacular card for the money. Especially under £150.

The i3/7850 is £100 more, so it depends which way you'd prefer the £50 to go, its worth the difference.

By the way snips, he gets free shipping.

 

[ubersonic]

Here's what I came up with:

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 660TI EX OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with a free copy of 3DMark advanced edition £239.99
1 x AMD Athlon X4 750K Black Edition 3.40GHz (Socket FM2) Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD750KWOHJBOX) £64.99
1 x "Primo 520a" AMD A55 DDR3 Ready Barebones (Socket FM2) £60.38
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £31.99
1 x **B Grade** Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM £30
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £446.34 (includes shipping : FREE).




Quad core CPU with a 4GHz turbo and room for overclocking, decent Nvida GPU as requested.

Would help though if you told use what games you play though? as you requested Nvidia I was assuming you play games that favors their hardware but if its just phobia of ATi drivers then the HD7000 series are pretty stable now with the latest drivers, nothing like the nightmare scenario in some games the was a couple of months ago.

 

[Doomedspeed]

Here's what I came up with:

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 660TI EX OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with a free copy of 3DMark advanced edition £239.99
1 x AMD Athlon X4 750K Black Edition 3.40GHz (Socket FM2) Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD750KWOHJBOX) £64.99
1 x "Primo 520a" AMD A55 DDR3 Ready Barebones (Socket FM2) £60.38
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £31.99
1 x **B Grade** Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM £30
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £446.34 (includes shipping : FREE).




Quad core CPU with a 4GHz turbo and room for overclocking, decent Nvida GPU as requested.

Would help though if you told use what games you play though? as you requested Nvidia I was assuming you play games that favors their hardware but if its phobia of ATi drivers then the HD7000 series are pretty stable now with the latest drivers, nothing like the nightmare scenario in some games the was a couple of months ago.

I wouldn't, not with that psu. I doubt it would cope long with the gpu. Let alone adding over clocking into the mix.

The athlons are good for the price but are outshined by the ivy i3's

The 660ti is better than the 7850 but as its at the 7950 price point, id rather get a 7950 for the price. Much better gpu.

 

[Bacon?]

I don't fully understand that spec in anyway way shape or form.

 

[zakblood]

must agree tbh, amd does seem to have more power for your buck now days and haven't spec'ed a amd athlon for a long while because there plenty better for almost same costs

too cheap on cpu, too much on vga

 

[Bacon?]

Well these Athlons are just the Trinity CPU's with the IGP turned off.

So you might as well get a Pentium / i3 or a FX-4300/6300.

 

[ubersonic]

I wouldn't, not with that psu. I doubt it would cope long with the gpu. Let alone adding over clocking into the mix.

I have built a number of similar systems for people, no issues yet.

The athlons are good for the price but are outshined by the ivy i3's

The 660ti is better than the 7850 but as its at the 7950 price point, id rather get a 7950 for the price. Much better gpu.

In both cases it depends on the game though hence why I asked him what he's playing.

too cheap on cpu, too much on vga

To be honest I specced the system with WoW/D3 in mind as he hasn't told us what he wants to play so I just wen't off what I play lol.

Well these Athlons are just the Trinity CPU's with the IGP turned off.

So you might as well get a Pentium / i3 or a FX-4300/6300.

Yeah but the 4300 is £25 more than the X4 750K but not £25 better performing, the 6300 is I agree a better choice assuming he isn't going to be wasting the extra cores, as for the Pentium/i3 it depends on the games he plays, like I said I specced the system with WoW/D3 in mind in which case the X4 will beat a Pentium/i3.

 

[Doomedspeed]

I have built a number of similar systems for people, no issues yet.

Well i personally wouldn't suggest that PSU for a rig that can easily use over half (250W) of power. Firstly, sometimes those PSU's are only comfortable (stable) using 75%-80% of it power. The compoents (within the PSU) may not have capabilities to protect other compoents its plugged into (motherboard, GPU) if it does blow.

There are many Horror stories of £15 500W PSU's out there.

In both cases it depends on the game though hence why I asked him what he's playing..

Unless he's like a good 75% of the gaming population that play a majority of games.
The 7950 will not struggle even with Nvidia coded games.

Yeah but the 4300 is £25 more than the X4 750K but not £25 better performing, the 6300 is I agree a better choice assuming he isn't going to be wasting the extra cores, as for the Pentium/i3 it depends on the games he plays, like I said I specced the system with WoW/D3 in mind in which case the X4 will beat a Pentium/i3.

Since when did WOW/D3 use 4 cores? These and many other games can work on threads too. The i3 is well threaded, even though it is a dual core it outshines the AMD "4-Core" CPU's while coming close to the "6 core" CPU's.

 

[zakblood]

+1 doom, must agree will all above

 

[ubersonic]

There are many Horror stories of £15 500W PSU's out there.

To be fair I wasn't suggesting he run an SLi NAS monster off it I know the are many horror stories with cheapo PSU's but CiT are actually quite good, not Seasonic/Delta good obviously but they are a level up from the "normal" cheap PSU's, and running a CPU with a max TDP of 100w + a GPU with max TDP of 150w plus not much else on a 500w rated PSU should not really be an issue no matter how bad it is (within reason ofc).

Unless he's like a good 75% of the gaming population that play a majority of games.
The 7950 will not struggle even with Nvidia coded games.

I never suggested it would struggle, but a factory overclocked 660Ti will match or surpass an equal priced HD7950 in games that heavily favour Nvidia (again I based the spec on a WoW/Diablo rig).

Since when did WOW/D3 use 4 cores? These and many other games can work on threads too. The i3 is well threaded, even though it is a dual core it outshines the AMD "4-Core" CPU's while coming close to the "6 core" CPU's.

As a rule you want at least three cores running at least 3ghz, more cores above that doesn't really do much and more speed isn't particularly useful either, they are the sweet spots, cache can help too but only marginally (i.e an i7 will beat an equally clocked i5 slightly due to the extra cache). The Athlon X4 750K is basically a A8-5600K without the iGPU and the 5600K is better in WoW than an IB i3.


Its all moot though really as he probably doesn't play the same games as me

 

[areksnumbr1sxylady]

Here's what I came up with:

YOUR BASKET
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 660TI EX OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with a free copy of 3DMark advanced edition £239.99
1 x AMD Athlon X4 750K Black Edition 3.40GHz (Socket FM2) Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD750KWOHJBOX) £64.99
1 x "Primo 520a" AMD A55 DDR3 Ready Barebones (Socket FM2) £60.38
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £31.99
1 x **B Grade** Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM £30
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £446.34 (includes shipping : FREE).




Quad core CPU with a 4GHz turbo and room for overclocking, decent Nvida GPU as requested.

Would help though if you told use what games you play though? as you requested Nvidia I was assuming you play games that favors their hardware but if its just phobia of ATi drivers then the HD7000 series are pretty stable now with the latest drivers, nothing like the nightmare scenario in some games the was a couple of months ago.

This is poor... sorry

 

[Bacon?]

The 5600K is not better than the Ivy i3 at WOW. Because WOW does not support multicore CPU's.

 

[areksnumbr1sxylady]

YOUR BASKET
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATi Radeon HD 7950 Windforce 3X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Sleeping Dogs PC Game £199.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £80.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £52.99
1 x Intel Celeron G540 2.50GHz Socket LGA 1155 Processor - Retail £32.99
1 x **B Grade** Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM £30.00
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £29.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £457.93 (includes shipping : £10.00).



heavy reliance on b grade to get best parts... that cpu is weak... I would save up 50 more quid and get the 3220

So something more like this

YOUR BASKET
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATi Radeon HD 7950 Windforce 3X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Sleeping Dogs PC Game £199.99
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £89.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £80.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £52.99
1 x **B Grade** Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM £30.00
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £29.99
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £18.98
Total : £514.93 (includes shipping : £10.00).

 

[Doomedspeed]

The 5600K is not better than the Ivy i3 at WOW. Because WOW does not support multicore CPU's.

Exactly, the only way it comes out better is on graphical performance. Though that becomes obsolete when you add a gpu.

Not saying that the 5600k is a bad chip, as its not, the i3 is just better. The arguement of MOUR COREZZZ R BETTA doesn't work when comparing amd and Intel in the current state.

 

[honosuseri]

Having read and replied on your other thread about case and PSU choice, I know you have a GTX 460 and some HDDs. Providing your HDDs and optical drive are sata (not IDE), with my cash I would do this........

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £161.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £79.99
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L8 530W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - With 120mm Silent Wing Fan Built in £66.95
1 x Zalman Z9 USB 3.0 Midi Tower Case - Black £54.98
1 x OcUK Tech Labs - Corsair H60 Performance Intel Liquid Cooling Solution (Socket 1155 / 1156 / 1366) £32.39
- 1 x No Fan Required £0.00
- 1 x No Fan Required £0.00
- 1 x No Thermal Paste Required £0.00
1 x GeIL EVO Leggera 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (GEL38GB1600C9DC) £31.99
Total : £428.29 (includes shipping : FREE).



The OEM i5K is on offer, being £20 cheaper it helps pay for an aftermarket cooler to do some real overclocking. Granted it only has a 1 year warranty (retail has 3 years) but lets be honest CPU failure is very rare. The K editions also sport the better IGP, more on that later.

The Z77 mobo allows overclocking of the CPU. It has a 3 year uk based warranty and a dual (UEFI) BIOS which is a nice safety feature. The mobo comes with the LucidMVP software, it can use the IGP to boost your 460 GPU for better performance in game or switch to using the IGP for general tasks to save power. The IGP is also used by quicksync to help boost video encoding if you have software that uses it.

8GB of RAM, 1600mhz is the sweet spot for the 1155 socket. The RAM also happens to tie in nicely with the mobos colour scheme Case and PSU I have already recommended to you. The CLC cooler would need some thermal paste and fans, I'm hoping you have some spare. The Z9 case has plenty of fans so finding a fan or two for the radiator isn't an issue. If you have to buy thermal paste though the kit is less appealing. Either look at a aircooler like the coolermaster 612S (paste supplied) or if you like the idea of seeing a CLC cooler through the window, then maybe the antec 620 (paste and fan supplied).

The new drivers have really helped with the GTX460, I still own one and run it @850mhz (give or take depending on hot weather). I still find it capable for my needs, buying a GPU is really going to cut into your budget so I'd upgrade the GPU later on.

Hope this helps

 

[Bacon?]

Nice spec Hono

Although the CLC will require fans will it not? Unless he already has them ofc.

 

[honosuseri]

Nice spec Hono

Although the CLC will require fans will it not? Unless he already has them ofc.

The CLC cooler would need some thermal paste and fans, I'm hoping you have some spare. The Z9 case has plenty of fans so finding a fan or two for the radiator isn't an issue. If you have to buy thermal paste though the kit is less appealing.

 

[ubersonic]

The 5600K is not better than the Ivy i3 at WOW. Because WOW does not support multicore CPU's.

2007 called, it would like to tell you about the cool new WoW updates coming (joking aside wow has supported multi-core CPU's for quite a long time now and runs best with three cores available to it).