GameStop: next Xbox sales will suffer if used games are blocked

Its about killing the second hand market stone dead.

Sony are reportedly considering doing the same

http://kotaku.com/5896996/the-next-playstation-is-called-orbis-sources-say-here-are-the-details

I suspect people will have to either adapt, or stop console gaming altogether.

You won't necessarily need a "always on" connection, but you will need one to authenticate that code you get in the box, and you won't be able to play the game unless you do.

Ah ok, thanks for that. I guess the code for online wasn't wroking well enough :(

I wouldn't mind if it was a one off connection to authenticate but always on would be a killer for me, or anywhere I take my console to play offline like work.
 
Basically they are saying that while we own the software to play the game we don't own the right to play it without constantly authenticating? That sucks. Essentially that is rental of the game then, which should mean a cheaper purchase price.
 
Ah ok, thanks for that. I guess the code for online wasn't wroking well enough :(

I wouldn't mind if it was a one off connection to authenticate but always on would be a killer for me, or anywhere I take my console to play offline like work.

Don't think its going to need to be "always on" but you are going to need to have one to do your initial activation of the game like you do on steam which has the offline play mode.
 
Plus there is the omnipotent threat that Microsoft will one day remotely brick your xbox for using the hack as they do with JTAG'd xbox 360s.

I do not know where you get your info, but Microsoft have never bricked a Jtag remotely. They can't do that even if they wanted to, at least not permanently/user can't recover, so hardly a threat.
 
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Assuming it does not not get cracked, I suppose. But if it does not get cracked, it's irrelevant. If the online verification (assuming it's there), does not get cracked, then there would be no point modding your box.

I was simply correcting the statement of them bricking jtags. It's never happened.
 
I don't have too much of a problem with it. If I don't want to pay full price for a game then I just wait a month (sometimes it doesn't even take that long) for the price to be halved.

As someone mentioned earlier, used games never have that big of a discount compared to new and sometimes in Game I've seen used games with a higher price-point than new.
The thing I will be losing personally is the ability to trade in or sell on my played games but if (albeit a BIG 'if') the publishers do make games cheaper due to having complete control of their prices then I'll be happy. I'm just not overly confident that they will do this.

Like any change, people will blow steam out of their ears and rage on the internet for a month and then go and buy the console, in a similar way to all those people boycotting that CoD game (black ops?) for not having private servers - most of that Steam group were playing the game on release day. Consumers are very forgiving and adaptable.

As for the article, I take that with a pinch of salt - it's like Microsoft explaining why we need to pay a fee to use free apps (and apps we already pay for such as Netflix) and play online when it's main competitor asks for a fee and actually gives it's users games and discounts; but that's another conversation. :p
 
The consumers that will get hit most by such changes would be children and young teens. Its those that are using their pocket money and constantly trading in second hand games who will lose out most of all. I'm not going to shed too many tears over that though, given that when I was younger, If I wanted a game, I either saved for it or waited until birthdays or christmas. Its also probably no bad thing limiting the number of games children have, to stop them spending all their time on them.

I know many people who have the disposable income to afford brand new games, but instead they do trade-ins simply because it saves a little bit of money and given that they probably won't play a game again, it makes more sense to do so. If you can end that, then its a plus for the Publisher, however may be somewhat detrimental to Retailers who rely on the second hand model.

This post brings back fond memories of the late 80s early 90s. Always getting so excited for the Atari Lynx at Christmas, games on birthdays. The best time was when I got the NES. Oh how I miss Mario. I would like to get a Wii at some stage.
The only time a lot of us gamed back in those days was rainy days. Or in certain evenings for a few hours, 7 - 9pm before they went home.

Funny how so much has changed.

Any other time we were all out bike riding, swimming, sports days, football/training and all that.
 
Some interesting reasons why the next Xbox likely won't have rumoured second hand restrictions, from a few former Microsoft employees:


Personally, I think they are pretty much spot on, the biggest point of all being that if Sony aren't doing it, it becomes a negative to your console. Its a different story if both manufacturers agreed to it.
 
Some excellent points in that video....and thanks for introducing me to OX! I used to love Inside Xbox.

Yeah I only spotted that they were back just before Xmas, well minus Dan at least. I believe it's Eurogamer who are behind Outside Xbox.

The Show Of The week is a lot like SentUAMessage with the same kind of comedy. I think the most hilarious video I've seen so far is where they play the Dangerous Hunts game together, as its terrible.
 
I guess we can still get decent prices from online stores if they lock out 2nd hand. The 2nd hand market is kinda pricey for what is essentially a used game with maybe some features missing especially in retail stores. Last time I bought a used game was rock band 2 because you can't get it new easily and the code for RB3 was already used anyway.
 
Some interesting reasons why the next Xbox likely won't have rumoured second hand restrictions, from a few former Microsoft employees:


Personally, I think they are pretty much spot on, the biggest point of all being that if Sony aren't doing it, it becomes a negative to your console. Its a different story if both manufacturers agreed to it.

Given Sony's recent conversations at the PS4 launch, I don't think this is going to happen.

They pretty much ruled out restricting 2nd hand games on the PS4, and I think MS would suicidal to try and enforce this on their own. It would only work if both of them did it in their next gen consoles.
 
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