I7 3770k now or wait for haswell?

BL888 · 16 Feb 2013 at 23:33

Ian in 2 minds whether to get a new build now with the i7 3770k ivybridge CPU or wait for the new haswell chip in a few months.

Any recommendations?

Thx

Kaapstad · 17 Feb 2013 at 05:32

Wait for Haswell and do a 4770k build

If you go ivybridge its a dead end platform.

MaxP779 · 17 Feb 2013 at 09:10

BL888 said:
Ian in 2 minds whether to get a new build now with the i7 3770k ivybridge CPU or wait for the new haswell chip in a few months.

Any recommendations?

Thx

Whos Ian?

I recommend Ian wait for haswell as its not too far off now and comes on a new platform (1150).

Tackle_Berry · 17 Feb 2013 at 10:32

I am in the same situation, but think I will just wait. Hopefully will be worth it.

old gamer · 17 Feb 2013 at 11:21

Same here, on a i7 920 that handles everthing fine but i want something new to play with, waiting on haswell to see if it brings anything new to the table

illuz · 17 Feb 2013 at 11:39

old gamer said:
Same here, on a i7 920 that handles everthing fine but i want something new to play with, waiting on haswell to see if it brings anything new to the table

I'm sure setter came from a 920 to the 3570k and he said his minimums were better on the 920!

setter · 17 Feb 2013 at 11:53

Yep, minimums on bf3 were slightly better with the 920 @4.2ghz compared to the 3570k @4.5ghz. As bf3 utilises hyperthreading this was the difference, you can see the same differences in benchmarks such as 3d mark, physics and combined scores are lower on the 3570k despite it's higher clockspeed.

old gamer · 17 Feb 2013 at 12:23

Yep i found ht can help in some game, thats why i have the 3770k in my sights at the mo, just hoping haswell will be less power run cooler and mabe alow higher overclocks, or i can ignore my upgrade addiction and stick with the 920

BL888 · 17 Feb 2013 at 14:18

thanks for the advice all.. Any idea if the Corsair H80i will be transferable?

assalino · 17 Feb 2013 at 18:08

Damn. I want to buy a 3570k today, but Haswell does sound better. Is it going to be crazy expensive to begin with?

Wucked · 17 Feb 2013 at 21:14

BL888 said:
thanks for the advice all.. Any idea if the Corsair H80i will be transferable?

I asked Corsair tech support if the brackets for the H100i would fit, around three weeks ago, they said that they don't know atm. They're waiting for Intel to submit specs.

Not sure if that has changed in the last few weeks..

HighlandeR · 17 Feb 2013 at 21:51

Another issue with haswell is the rumored release date is still June/July.

Still a good 4 months away, and even then it is not a confirmed release date.

I too was going to consider even a Sandy or ivy setup, but it sure would feel better to get a mobo that may last a wee bit longer, only issue is now there suggesting ATI/Nvidia are delaying there next gen cards for this fall

Ill see how it goes in the summer if not then the fall may sound more promising.

555BUK · 18 Feb 2013 at 15:06

Damned annoying that Intel keep changing the socket. Anyone would think they don't want exisiting owners to upgrade their CPU's, because I will not change sockets unless there is a BIG hike in performance (which Haswell doesn't look likely to provide).

dacads · 18 Feb 2013 at 15:47

People are suggesting waiting for Haswell is a good idea at the moment but I'm sure when it is released there will still be people upgrading to IB and some due to prices dropping then

Doomedspeed · 18 Feb 2013 at 16:22

555BUK said:
Damned annoying that Intel keep changing the socket. Anyone would think they don't want exisiting owners to upgrade their CPU's, because I will not change sockets unless there is a BIG hike in performance (which Haswell doesn't look likely to provide).

Thats how they make their money and move the technology onward.

Lets say all the latest CPU's were made for 775, we wouldn't have native USB3 and SATAIII..

Think about that....

Armageus · 18 Feb 2013 at 16:55

Doomedspeed said:
Thats how they make their money and move the technology onward.

Lets say all the latest CPU's were made for 775, we wouldn't have native USB3 and SATAIII..

Think about that....

To be fair probably not, since usb3 and sataiii could have been implemented in a chipset for 775 (yes I know it would be limited by the FSB between CPU and Chipset)

1150 does sound like a unneeded change of socket though - much like 1156->1155 was.

771->1366 needed due to pins for onchip memory controller etc.
775->1156 needed due to pins for onchip memory controller etc.
1155 - 1 less pin for?
1366->2011, more pins for more memory channels + more pci-e lanes.
1155->1150 - 5 less pins? any real changes?

Some of it is forced changes to ensure users don't plug wrong specced processors into boards (e.g. if voltage requirements change significantly).

AMD have managed to stay on the "same" socket for a while due to it being designed to incorporate everything from the off. ("same" in a loose sense of the word as AM2/2+/3 only have some level of interoperability depending on Board/Chipset as I understand_

troops · 18 Feb 2013 at 17:06

1150 wont last long the way Intel changes things.

Buckster · 18 Feb 2013 at 18:42

the raw performance you get with a 3770k and even mid-overclocks - to me has really surprised me (running my 3770k @ 4.5) - it rips through everything

I can't see the need for much more performance in the next few years

whats the chance of you upgrading any CPU in a given socket these days ? probably pretty little on the current rate of socket changes

therefore the only real disadvantage possibly of going 3770k now vs Haswell is potentially slightly less performance at slightly higher temps

V F · 18 Feb 2013 at 19:18

Buckster said:
whats the chance of you upgrading any CPU in a given socket these days ? probably pretty little on the current rate of socket changes

The thing thats so amusing... the past decade I've rarely seen threads, spec me a cpu to go with this motherboard. It's always new half build or complete build threads. Yet you see threads making fuss of socket changes. As well as others fuss about obsolete sockets/platforms.

After all this time some people still go on like future proof exists but on the other hand, some others complain about the lack of socket changes while holding back in performance improvements.

Sometimes watching/listening to some people it's like "I don't want them to change because I have this" while others it's "I want it to change because I haven't upgraded and holding back until something new comes out" as each year never changes with some people. On so many forums for so many years some of these regular joe's/enthusiasts still act like it's some new found discovery that they've came across. The market has been this way for god knows how long.

whiteshadow · 18 Feb 2013 at 21:27

I'm having the same dilema atm.

Running atm on an AMD 965 and not sure wether to bite the bullet and upgrade to a 3770k or not.

Worried I won't be as impressed with the leap as I was from my dual core AMD 6000+ to a AMD 965.

I was hoping both Intel and AMD would be producing great 8 cores by now.

Kinda sucks.