Poundland Girl Wins Forced Labour Ruling

Blackjack Davy said:
Exactly, she's got a frickin' degree in Law, couldn't she have spent it more productively than wasting wasting lord knows how much taxpayers money on pointless legal battles? Y'know, like actually finding meaningful employment?

She won on a legal technicality, thats all.
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damn her for standing up for her rights.
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Exactly, she's got a frickin' degree in Law, couldn't she have spent it more productively than wasting wasting lord knows how much taxpayers money on pointless legal battles? Y'know, like actually finding meaningful employment?

She won on a legal technicality, thats all.
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Degree in law ... won on a technicality ... Surely that is a great thing to put on your CV? :D

Couldn't the government stop wasting wasting lord knows how much taxpayers money on pointless illegal schemes? Y'know, like actually finding people meaningful employment?
 
Blackjack Davy said:
Exactly, she's got a frickin' degree in Law, couldn't she have spent it more productively than wasting wasting lord knows how much taxpayers money on pointless legal battles? Y'know, like actually finding meaningful employment?

She won on a legal technicality, thats all.
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Have you read any of the 6 pages before now?

Because a lot of what you are complaining about has been countered rather successfully.
 
Imagine to be able to sit in a job interview if you've been looking for work and you say to your interviewer I went to the Government Work Scheme because I just needed to prove my ability and desire. I can't understand the whiners.....
 
kitch9 said:
Imagine to be able to sit in a job interview if you've been looking for work and you say to your interviewer I went to the Government Work Scheme because I just needed to prove my ability and desire. I can't understand the whiners.....
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Even better, how about being able to say she volunteered in a museum?

Which she did. Go back and read the thread please.
 
spankingtexan said:
and they will be shut down too :p
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Believe me I'd love to see it happen but most people today just take whatever is thrown at them up the **** and blame other people for their plight, there's no will to fight anymore... we're so docile over here that we mock the French whenever they stand up for their rights.
 
mmj_uk said:
Believe me I'd love to see it happen but most people today just take whatever is thrown at them up the **** and blame other people for their plight, there's no will to fight anymore... we're so docile over here that we mock the French whenever they stand up for their rights.
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Yes, we must turn the tide and stand up for our rights, it is happening, slowly but the wheels are turning. The Government has been sent a clear message and we will defeat it i'm sure.
 
GAC said:
that maybe what he means but im sure i remember watching something on the bbc last year about there being around 1 million empty properties across the uk sitting empty for one reason or another. so not sure if land lords would drop the rents that much at all.

the biggest excuse (and it is a excuse) people make for getting rid of the min wage is to make the uk more competitive, the small problem is we all know that it would be a race to the bottom as far as wages. and people would take the jobs as they need the money.

the min wage now isnt high enough to live on hence we have working tax credits, so how people think we can have no min wage is beyond me.
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It may be a race to the bottom, but there will always be a limit below which people are just unwilling to work, regardless of the benefit. When that starts happening, companies may well begin to raise salaries to get people who are actually interested in working.

For instance, if you have a customer facing role which at the moment is minimum wage, would you rather pay someone less and have a miserable git working there and dealing with customers, or pay someone more and get someone who actually wants to be there?

Additionally, it may also create additional jobs as companies may think that rather than having one person at £8 an hour, it is worth more to have 2 people in at £10 per hour. If a company wouldn't hire someone because it can't afford to pay the minimum wage, but does have a job opening at a lower wage, why should it be restricted from creating that job? Is it really better to have someone earn nothing rather than earn less?

As Dolph mentioned, this can't be an isolated action and there would need to be further reforms too, but it also can't be presumed that it is a good thing without questioning it. Personally, I would say that it is better to have someone paid less than minimum wage and then supported by the government in some way, rather than have someone paid nothing and fully supported by the government because there is no job out there.
 
having worked for £2 an hour in the past before we had the min wage i can see such rates returning if the min wage was dropped. companies will pay as little as they can get away with.

sure you may get one or two that will pay its workers as they value them but the vast majority will cut wages fast and hard.

also why should the government have to pick up the bill so private companies can make more money ? the min wage is there as a hard level even if a tad low for a living wage.
 
The real problem is profits and how much turnover companies can take home each year and pay to shareholders.Wages are too high for us to export or compete with India/China so what happens when India and China over take us in 20 years? The UK invested heavilty in its IT and financial centers but someday India will have thier own that are just as good as london and then what? We will be a tiny nation with average wealth and india and china and america will be superpowers who might be looking at us for cheap labour ^^

Thier people will demand minimum wage too and china will either close up and make its own goods and things like cheap TV's will dissapear for whatever 3rd world country we have on purpose sabotaged economically.

Made in Africa will be the new made in China.Someone somewhere has to be poor to export things we need like cheap food and electronics.


If everything in the UK was homemade like it just might be in the future then things will cost twice as much and wages will only go half as far.What will happen once people find out they only have enough income for food and water and cannot afford the new £4000 tv they wanted as its made in london?


I think the only way to counter it would be to put a cap on profits as thats where a lot of the money goes which only benefits a few select millionaires and billionaires like warren buffet and his heinze deal.If companies and individuals stopped hogging profits and massive amounts of wealth things could cost a bit less and minimum wage would suffice.I have heard people claim there is enough wealth in the world to feed and cloth and house every human being on the planet yet its locked away by 10% of the population who have no real need for insane amounts of wealth.The queen is a prime example who apparantly was ordaned by god even though no one alive or dead has actually met god in person? She has god knows how many palaces and acres of land that could be used to house some of the homeless people who sleep on park benches.


But right now no one gives a damm, its take take take and get the plebs in to do it as cheap as possible.Someday the bubble will burst it just wont happen as long as everyone champions capitalism like the ray of sunshine it most clearly isnt.The only reason it even works is we can exploit young chinese workers to do our dirty work.
 
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Brilliant love the way they shut down that poundland store.


Many more companies, including Poundland, but also Superdrug and Argos, have discovered it can be profitable to take on unpaid temporary staff for work which involves little training.
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I will make sure no one i know will ever shop at scumland or Argos again thats for sure.
 
GAC said:
having worked for £2 an hour in the past before we had the min wage i can see such rates returning if the min wage was dropped. companies will pay as little as they can get away with.

sure you may get one or two that will pay its workers as they value them but the vast majority will cut wages fast and hard.

also why should the government have to pick up the bill so private companies can make more money ? the min wage is there as a hard level even if a tad low for a living wage.
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But what about cases where new jobs have been created due to the companies being able to pay less? If the choice is between someone being unemployed and the government supporting them completely, and between some one who is employed but still needs support, surly the latter is better?
 
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