Holiday Entitlement - Opinion on this situation
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considering there were 9 bank holidays last year then your not far off what i was suggesting then really...
Well i would guess money has got something to do with it, he is getting 6 full shifts of pay where as we are giving him the same money but he would likely be only doing 5 full shifts with the odd Saturday. The trade off obviously is losing your Saturday.
article on it here http://uk.mercer.com/press-releases/holiday-entitlements-around-the-world
This is how I imagined you whilst you typed that post
Yes indeed. I must admit, holiday ethics really really wind me up. I work 08:45 to 7pm every day and also every Saturday and frankly can see no way out unless I take a very large and very scary risk. I work for a big company too and frankly they have absolutely no excuse. At all. It's making me a very bitter person. All if this could have been avoided if I had not met a bloody woman! Give me a field in the countryside, a fork and ill be happy. Just not cut out for this horrible city life.
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I get 27 days plus bank hols
we start with 20 + bank hols then every year you get 1 extra up to the max 27 +bank hols.
its a 5 day week also
we start with 20 + bank hols then every year you get 1 extra up to the max 27 +bank hols.
its a 5 day week also
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20 days? Id not sign up for that. I get 30 + BH.
You want o keep a valuable employee? Give them good holidays, don't screw them over because the law says you can get away with 20. Typical small business attitude if you ask me.
You want o keep a valuable employee? Give them good holidays, don't screw them over because the law says you can get away with 20. Typical small business attitude if you ask me.
This.
The last company I worked for was 28 + public holidays (large corp - construction). My current is 25 + public holidays (small business - food industry machinery).
A few employers increase holiday entitlement in line with length of service.
If others aren't using their full entitlement could you not offset extra days for him against this?
A few employers increase holiday entitlement in line with length of service.
If others aren't using their full entitlement could you not offset extra days for him against this?
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In many cases it's not so much an attitude it's just that a small business often can't as easily afford to pay someone to not be there for over 10% of the working year. An extra two weeks a year is a fair bit for a small business to accommodate, not least in terms of covering work for the holidaying employees.
TBH for a standard 5 day a week job, 4 weeks a year off + BH as per minimum is quite enough.
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Its an issue now as we are ridiculously busy and we want to retain staff but we have struggled for the last 4 years to be fair and i am sure the guys would rather have had jobs at all during that period rather than a few extra days holiday..
This depends on the business. If the workers are generating more capital for the company than their salary, then the worker leaving because conditions are rubbish is more expensive than making conditions better.
edit: LordSplodge - on the topic of working conditions, what's it like living in Derby? There's a risk of my company sending me there for six months, and my brief two day visit rather put me off the place.
Yes, hence my use of the word 'often' to indicate the statement wasn't intended to apply to every small business in the world without exception.
Well that was my argument, if we have the work then its not an issue at all, they do generate far more than there salary, but all i got was well you cant do it on a yearly review basis (i.e can the company afford it on a year to year basis because you would get people allowing for the extra days when they book holidays a long way away) and its just not done.
But then if it was such a sticking point then why have i got three out of the four long term employees not taking all there entitlement in the previous year.
Kenai: Fair enough. I think employees that are a net drain on the company, such that it's cheaper to lose them and search for a replacement than give them an extra fortnights holiday, are a minority. If your experience is that most small companies are employing people that cost more than the benefit they bring, then I'm surprised, but happy to accept that.
MaX_PoWah: I don't really see the argument for never reviewing holiday, though people wont like having it reduced. If you give a Christmas bonus based on how well the company is doing, then I can see varying holiday in the same fashion. I'd guess your long term employees aren't using all their holiday for much the same reason I didn't last year - work was interesting so I was happy to go in.
MaX_PoWah: I don't really see the argument for never reviewing holiday, though people wont like having it reduced. If you give a Christmas bonus based on how well the company is doing, then I can see varying holiday in the same fashion. I'd guess your long term employees aren't using all their holiday for much the same reason I didn't last year - work was interesting so I was happy to go in.
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i get 25, i thought that was the minimum tbh!