Geforce Titan rumours.

[imginy]

there you go..

In terms of availability and pricing, it’s a somewhat mixed bag. An SRP of $999 puts TITAN well beyond the reach of most gamers and enthusiasts, but this isn’t a limited edition card which will only have a production run of 1,000 (we’re looking at you ARES II) so availability should be similar to that of the GTX 690. Just don’t cross your fingers hoping that every retailer will receive stock. While EVGA and ASUS are both supporting this launch in North America,


http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...ia-geforce-gtx-titan-gk110-s-opening-act.html

The first paragraph on that link says 660ti is 106 silicone

I stopped reading after that lol

 

[Jakus]

The first paragraph on that link says 660ti is 106 silicone

I stopped reading after that lol

You lost me

 

[Jakus]

Gk106, , sorry see what you mean

 

[melmac]

It's not an assumption. It's based on facts. The Titan is a rebranded failed Tesla 20X. Cat has already explained how low the yields are on them.

So that makes it rather limited as yields are pretty terrible as it is.

The 690 is completely different as yields on the 680 were always quite good. I've never seen any availability problems with the 680 core, so there really isn't any reason for the 690 to be short in supply.

The 690 is very expensive which gives it a very limited audience which is why they haven't made a metric ton of them as they simply wouldn't sell.

So in summation I am not making assumptions I've just been reading posts properly and making informed decisions.

I agree with all this. While Nvidia is saying that it isn't a limited run, how many of them can their actually be? I mean Nvidia might be saying that it's not a limited run as in they will be continuing to make them but at a trickle.

So take the facts above and put them together with Gibbo saying that numbers are very low, then it looks like a limited part!!

But, hey come Next week, there could be millions of them

 

[melmac]

Triple screen is where Titan is aimed and you can now see why

Sorry Gregster!! This isn't a nivida slide, some guy over on hardforum put this together. It's mainly guesswork based on old rumours of the Titan performance.

That's not to say it could be spot on, but unlikely.

 

[V3teran]

I agree with all this. While Nvidia is saying that it isn't a limited run, how many of them can their actually be? I mean Nvidia might be saying that it's not a limited run as in they will be continuing to make them but at a trickle.

So take the facts above and put them together with Gibbo saying that numbers are very low, then it looks like a limited part!!

But, hey come Next week, there could be millions of them

Agree.

Gibbo will say that as he wants to sell as many as he can, Its a business after all.

The 690 was supposed to be in limited numbers if you remember, now theres hundreds of them.

There will be plenty of Titans after a month or two and the price will come down also i think.

 

[8 Pack]

Guys Gibbo is spot on as the silicon yield for this product is terrible. Several vendors have confirmed such. If the yield is terrible it matters not how many Nvidia intend to churn out as the chip is simply not available to them in these numbers.

 

[Rroff]

It would be silly of nvidia to do a limited run as i assume they are stilling producing the full tesla version. With this in mind there are going to be plenty of failed chips which can then be sold as titans.

If the rumours are correct they've been stockpiling them for awhile to make this batch - even assuming they did continue to reuse failed tesla chips ongoing from now it would be a (relatively) tiny trickle.

 

[Suarez7]

That's still limited. You're forgetting it has a seriously limited buying audience.

I didn't mean limited as in 1000 I meant that they won't be mass produced like something like a 670.

Similar availability to 690 means they'll be widely available just like 690's are now...

 

[Jakus]

Guys Gibbo is spot on as the silicon yield for this product is terrible. Several vendors have confirmed such. If the yield is terrible it matters not how many Nvidia intend to churn out as the chip is simply not available to them in these numbers.

Bound to be with a big chip more chance of it being in bad silicon and much less per wafer... but that must mean more substandard (titan) chips than full K20's surely

 

[spoffle]

I agree with all this. While Nvidia is saying that it isn't a limited run, how many of them can their actually be? I mean Nvidia might be saying that it's not a limited run as in they will be continuing to make them but at a trickle.

So take the facts above and put them together with Gibbo saying that numbers are very low, then it looks like a limited part!!

But, hey come Next week, there could be millions of them

Since when has anyone actually believed what nVidia says themselves?

Errbody knows they talk rubbish and lie about stuff.

In the real world, everyone knows that a GPU the size of Titan can't be anything but very low yield and very expensive to produce.

This is the exact reason why I've never believed the claims that GK104 was originally going to be midrange, with GK110 being the intended high-end.

Another Fermi isn't something nVidia ever wanted to do, ever.

 

[melmac]

Bound to be with a big chip more chance of it being in bad silicon and much less per wafer... but that must mean more substandard (titan) chips than full K20's surely

I think the problem is that there isn't that many GK110 chips to begin with. So first of all small number of actual gk110 chips, then take out the ones that pass the requirements for the K20x and K20. Then what you are left is turned into the Titan.

 

[8 Pack]

^^^ Correct spoffle!!!

 

[Rroff]

Since when has anyone actually believed what nVidia says themselves?

Errbody knows they talk rubbish and lie about stuff.

In the real world, everyone knows that a GPU the size of Titan can't be anything but very low yield and very expensive to produce.

This is the exact reason why I've never believed the claims that GK104 was originally going to be midrange, with GK110 being the intended high-end.

Another Fermi isn't something nVidia ever wanted to do, ever.

GK110 was never going to be the GTX680 (as long as its existed it was always compute focused), but likewise the GTX680 was never going to be on GK104 originally either - I don't know if it was incidental or not but AMD gifted them that one by releasing the 79x0 underclocked.

 

[melmac]

Since when has anyone actually believed what nVidia says themselves?

Errbody knows they talk rubbish and lie about stuff.

In the real world, everyone knows that a GPU the size of Titan can't be anything but very low yield and very expensive to produce.

This is the exact reason why I've never believed the claims that GK104 was originally going to be midrange, with GK110 being the intended high-end.

Another Fermi isn't something nVidia ever wanted to do, ever.

Hey, wait on, I agree with you completely. I have been saying from the start that the GK110 was never intended to be a gaming/consumer card.

And I don't believe those claims about the gk104 been a midrange part. And the other claim that drives me nuts is the people who believe that Nvidia held the high end Kepler back because the 7970 was so bad.

EDIT: Actually, just read my post again, please point out where I said I believed Nvidia's claims? I went out of my way to show that what they said was different than the reality

 

[Jakus]

I just find it amazing you can run..must be best part of 200Amps through that lump of silicon, let alone make it in the first place

 

[spoffle]

Hey, wait on, I agree with you completely. I have been saying from the start that the GK110 was never intended to be a gaming/consumer card.

And I don't believe those claims about the gk104 been a midrange part. And the other claim that drives me nuts is the people who believe that Nvidia held the high end Kepler back because the 7970 was so bad.

Well yeah, exactly. However, GK110 being initially designed for something else doesn't mean it won't be good at gaming or anything like that, what they have basically done is split their chips.

GK110 is like an evolution of Fermi on a dieshrink, angled towards very heavily parallel computing, which isn't necessarily needed for games as such, but definitely does provide an improvement.

For GK104, I think nVidia lost the plot a bit, as I really don't understand why they thought it'd be a good idea to go with a 256bit bus and 2GB of RAM as standard, especially when they had the luxury of seeing what AMD had out first.

To me, it seems like they lost a bit of interest in the desktop GPU industry and put their work towards the HPC industry, as they could actually make a big profit off a massive die there.

 

[Name]

Why are people talking about low yields on this Titan card? What does Yield even mean in relation to graphics cards?

And why is it bad for them...help a dummy out here.

*edit: after abit of looking around, Silicone yield = % of silicone that performs properly..

So, the Titan having horrible yields = harder to make/less available because the silicone used in them fails a lot?

 

[Muzy]

over £800? wow!

its a beast no doubt about it.

 

[Jakus]

I think the only thing I believe is they tell us what they want and stamp on anyone that does not go along with it. Shame ATI is carrying a CPU company as they are the only people that keep Nvidia even slightly honest.