7850 oced vs 660 oced

mranderson · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:11

spoffle said:
That was before the Never Settle drivers.

Is this the improvement we are talking about with the new drivers?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/23.html

4% for the 7850 :rolleyes:

mranderson · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:12

Bacon? said:
No you don't get the point that the 7850 is the better card, just because your in denial doesn't mean your right.

I have an 7850 and I am in denial :confused:

Bacon? · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:13

Your in denial that the 660 beats the 7850.

igorm · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:15

Wait, chill, I dont get paulstung post about B grade... Why is it bad?

YOLOSWAG27 · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:15

nvidia all the way!

Bacon? · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:19

Sorry OP,

B-grade items are returned items. They come with a 90 day OcUK warranty and whatever is left on the manufacturers warranty. If the card is a DSR'd item that means nearly all 3 years of its warranty is left.

However it might be b-grade because it could not hit a high overclock or something. Maybe it was louder than the buyer wanted it to be etc.

Edit: Yolo leave this place now!

mranderson · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:20

Bacon? said:
Your in denial that the 660 beats the 7850.

Not sure if you are confused or not but where exactly did I say that the 660 doesn't beat the 7850?

igorm · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:26

I am not even sure how to check how long untill my warranty expires and how to check for defect though...

Hopefully everything is fine lol

Bacon? · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:26

^^ Points at Cybercows earlier post

"The 660 is faster so if the price is similar it is better vfm." - thats what you said.

They can't sell B-grade items if it doesnt work. So it will work fine it just might have a downfall like a not very well fitted cooler etc.
Best way to check the remaining warranty for me would be to ask OcUK customer service.

igorm · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:31

Bacon? said:
They can't sell B-grade items if it doesnt work. So it will work fine it just might have a downfall like a not very well fitted cooler etc.
Best way to check the remaining warranty for me would be to ask OcUK customer service.

Thank you very much.

Bacon? · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:33

igorm said:
Thank you very much.

No worries

One other thing with b-grade items is it might not come packaged in a box with the accessories or anything like a retail part

Shouldn't be too much an issue provided you have DVI / HDMI etc cables already.

Davedree · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:33

mranderson said:
Not sure how you can support that most of 7850 hit 1200MHz, but in the same way I can say that for 660's 1100 is much more easier.

As for the 7870 not being much faster than a 7850 what do you mean? How far do you have to oc a 7850 to achieve similar performance to a stock 7870?

1050, 1100, 175, 1200, 1250, core speed with a reliable memory overclock, whatever the difference between a 1100 and 1200 its hardly noticeable in game unless you're gay and always play with fps counter.

The average overclock on a 7850 differs but in general 1050 is the absolute minimum ,1100-1150 the average, 1200+ is less common.
You have to clock a 7850 to almost 1100 to be near a stock 7870. Of course there is a 7850 pcb and a 7850 but using a 7870 pcb

Davedree · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:34

igorm when you get your card if its a gigabyte, could you let us know if it works ok with your m-board?

igorm · 20 Feb 2013 at 13:39

It seems to work, but I have some software related issues (as far as I understand), more details on that is here.

mranderson · 20 Feb 2013 at 14:03

Davedree said:
1050, 1100, 175, 1200, 1250, core speed with a reliable memory overclock, whatever the difference between a 1100 and 1200 its hardly noticeable in game unless you're gay and always play with fps counter.

The average overclock on a 7850 differs but in general 1050 is the absolute minimum ,1100-1150 the average, 1200+ is less common.
You have to clock a 7850 to almost 1100 to be near a stock 7870. Of course there is a 7850 pcb and a 7850 but using a 7870 pcb

I totally agree about the whole oc hype. If you cannot notice the difference without using a fps counter don't bother.
I also think that the average oc for 7850 is around 1100 and anything over 1200 is just asking for trouble as it will certainly involve increasing voltages.

humbug · 20 Feb 2013 at 14:10

mranderson said:
I totally agree about the whole oc hype. If you cannot notice the difference without using a fps counter don't bother.
I also think that the average oc for 7850 is around 1100 and anything over 1200 is just asking for trouble as it will certainly involve increasing voltages.

Increasing voltages is no where near as detrimental as you obviously think. especially when the voltage is set pretty low at reference like the 7850 is.

mranderson · 20 Feb 2013 at 14:13

Can it kill your card?

spoffle · 20 Feb 2013 at 14:14

Only of you're careless and whack up the volts.

humbug · 20 Feb 2013 at 14:15

mranderson said:
Can it kill your card?

Only if you add silly volts.

Davedree · 20 Feb 2013 at 14:15

depends on the company who have made the pcb, and if they provide good cooling on the vrms and power circuit and to how well the gpu scales with voltage vs freq vs heat