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PS4 to use the 7970M GPU. What does this hold for PC gamers?
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sounds promising.
7970M? Source?
I've just heard this:
2176 GFLOPS Single Precision compute power
136 GFLOPS Double Precision compute power
Graphics Core Next (GCN) Architecture1
9th generation programmable hardware tessellation unit
20 Compute Units (1280 Stream Processors)
The PS4 has 18 Compute units.
I've just heard this:
7970M is:
2176 GFLOPS Single Precision compute power
136 GFLOPS Double Precision compute power
Graphics Core Next (GCN) Architecture1
9th generation programmable hardware tessellation unit
20 Compute Units (1280 Stream Processors)
The PS4 has 18 Compute units.
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7970m, that's around 6950 performance from a desktop pov isn't it?
I was under the impression some custom trinity type chip was to be used for low power high performance etc...
X86-64 over ppc too, this thing is going to get hacked to bits.
I was under the impression some custom trinity type chip was to be used for low power high performance etc...
X86-64 over ppc too, this thing is going to get hacked to bits.
So by the time this launches its already 2 generations behind.
Yep, that's how it looks.
Whatever it is, it'll be very hard to tell what it means for us PC gamers until release. Consoles don't work in the same way as PCs. For instance you have 8Gb of memory, 8core CPU and some sort of GPU all working closer together and more efficiently than in a PC.
You just can't compare the two that easily..
You just can't compare the two that easily..
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About 7870 performance. So with the increased optimisations they'll get from having fixed hardware it should perform roughly equivalent to PC 7950 performance (stock).
That's my guess.
The momentum is definitely with red team now: they have no excuse to have day 1 performance to be poor on PC games anymore which are also built on consoles which has always been the achilles heal for AMD in my view.
Ironically, this should push PC gaming on more.
Edit: 7950 stock performance once mature as a system
That's my guess.
The momentum is definitely with red team now: they have no excuse to have day 1 performance to be poor on PC games anymore which are also built on consoles which has always been the achilles heal for AMD in my view.
Ironically, this should push PC gaming on more.
Edit: 7950 stock performance once mature as a system
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Sorry PG but my breath is already held.
It doesn't work like that.
Generational wise, it doesn't really matter. To be honest, there's little use in directly comparing the specs to what a desktop computer can do.
A console has games taylormade specifically for that hardware, with direct access, almost at an assembly code level, to the hardware, which means they can get a lot more out of the hardware.
Some seriously impressive visuals will be possible on the PS4 with all the above taken into consideration, and I am personally very interested in the PS4 and what it will bring.
Would be nice to see a mouse & k/b for once. Not that I'm planning to ditch the PC in anway.
You gone blue yet?
Don't get ill over it, I'm not ready to take command
At some point you have to step out from my shadow. My prostate is on its last legs (too much pleasure and time spent holding poo's in) and i don't have much time left. Spread the msi 7970 oc word.
It'll be much greater, relative to the system.
Look at the graphics the PS3 and 360 can do compared to the GPUs they've got. It's far far greater than you'd really expect from, say, a GPU that has less raw power than an X1900 or nVidia 7900.
You also can't really compare how PC releases will run because while it uses
the same hardware, the software layers will be completely different.
For example, the 360 uses an AMD GPU in it, it has no bearing really.
Direct X is meaningless when talking about anything that isn't Windows really.
DX 11 doesn't mean good graphics, it's just an API that defines certain functionality of GPUs if they want to be compliant in the spec. So outside of that, it doesn't really mean anything.
On consoles, they have direct access to the hardware, which makes things like Direct X quite obsolete anyway.
The features will be defined by what the GPU can do, and I think most people in this section are massively underestimating what they will get out of the PS4, because they can't stop comparing the hardware like for like, to Windows based computers.
If they didn't charge so much for games on consoles i'd have been tempted this time around. PC games aren't exactly taking huge leaps forward and have looked the same for the past few years for the most part, we've barely had a handful of standout titles graphically.
It's because it moves in cycles. This is the beginning a new generational "jump" in graphical quality. The PS4 will be capable of impressive visuals, as will the new Xbox, which will push forward the baseline level of graphical quality, and push the top end further.